Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

Hey you know what... What's leveling WHM going to even be like for new players?
They've lost so much stuff, even JOB UNIQUE ABILITIES like Divine Seal. This was important shit... There's going to be this really weird gaps where they just don't obtain anything. Sigh. Jesus.

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Divine Seal :(

I am unhappy with a lot of the WHM changes. However, for some reason, the change that ticks me off the most is Divine Seal.

SE says they want WHM to be the pure healer. The healer with the strongest heal. Now, the other healers do not need divine seal. They are perfectly able to heal without it. So, why in the world would they take Divine Seal away from WHM, nerf it and give it to every single healer? If SE wanted to stay true to the concept of WHM having the strongest heal, then they should not have done what they did with Divine Seal. It only shows that they have no idea what they are doing and are contradicting themselves.

It seems the people happy with changes don't raid and the people unhappy with the changes do raid. Coincidence? I think not.

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

This is absolutely the silliest thing I've seen in a long while.

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I dunno man, this past week I've seen some pretty silly things being posted. Give the guy a break.

In the past, WHMs have received nerfs--proshell was handed out to the other healers and Stoneskin was nerfed, and I was all right with those... I was even okay with the holy nerf. But while the other jobs received buffs, WHMs have continuously been neglected. When I first saw that a bunch of our core abilities had been gutted and placed into the 'Role Shared' category, forcing us to use slots in order to get them back, I wasn't happy. But I conceded that I didn't know what we were getting in return, so I wanted to withhold judgement.

Now, with the information of the abilities having been released, I can say that I'm disappointed. For one thing, we're suddenly being discouraged from using our regens and other more-efficient heals in order to spam Cure to proc lilies. Doing so will also use GCDs, effectively decreasing our DPS. Our new mechanics are now gated on RNG/procs--not a constant resource like aetherflow. Effectively, our healing becomes RNG-dependent.

We've also effectively lost our only form of active mitigation (Stoneskin) for any pre-SB content. Instead, we have to use all of our lilies (RNG-dependent that they are) on a new level 66 single-target shield. It feels really strange that we got to keep Repose and a damageless Fluid Aura, but we lost Stoneskin and Divine Seal.

One area where White Mages were struggling was utility-- but once again, we didn't receive any in this expansion, while Astrologians kept their overpowered Balance buff and scholars received their own form of battle litany. Don't get me wrong--some abilities look great--Thin Air in particular looks like an amazing ability, but it doesn't make me feel any better about WHM's state in the game presently.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

It seems the people happy with changes don't raid and the people unhappy with the changes do raid. Coincidence? I think not.

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Nope, the changes to WHM are bad still in dungeon and pre-SB, lose of skills and utilities. I use all my skills as i can in both content (cause this is a Healer work)..and the new expansion will feel WHM so boring even in dungeon.

So it isn't a coincidence

That Feeling When Chickens Little start screaming "The Sky is Falling!"

Lilies don't even proc off Assize, Asylum, Tetra.
A part of me was so hopeful for the Lily gauge we were gonna use flower power to really bring something useful to the raid.
I now have to hold on to the hope that in-game content is designed to allow WHM to shine, but shine with what? SB Astro does it all better.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

It seems the people happy with changes don't raid and the people unhappy with the changes do raid. Coincidence? I think not.

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I don't do any progression raiding at all and I'm still very much unhappy. This is a hollow shell of what WHM is supposed to be about. I don't mind them changing the playstyle, but it should at least be to a playstyle which makes sense.

Don't understand the end of the world comments on this development build. Everything is subject to change.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

It seems the people happy with changes don't raid and the people unhappy with the changes do raid. Coincidence? I think not.

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I don't do any savage content and I'm not happy with the state of WHM going into 4.0