Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

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Originally Posted by jmdude

There's something I don't understand about the sharpcast opener. If you get a F3P why do you swift cast flare and not fire 4 . They are both instant cast with swiftcast but fire 4 is stronger than Flare and you can still convert do another fire and switch, I really can't wrap my head around why flare is stronger.

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It depends. If you don't get a proc you really can't do a Swiftcast F4 ... you'll run out of Astral Fire (F3P > F4 F4 > F1 (10s) > F4 F4 (5s left) Swiftcast F4 F4 (no AF left) B3 will fail terribly).

If you get a proc, it's still somewhat iffy. You have to go by pot/Trick Attack timers too, getting any of those makes Flare stronger than F4. A standard pure potency upgrade with a proc is F3P > F4 F4 F1 F4 F3P Swift F4 Convert F4 F4, which is fine MP wise and AF/Enochian wise, but it may not sync up with your pot/TA in such the way that F3P > F4 F4 F1 F4 F4 F3P Swiftcast Flare Convert F4 B3 does. We're talking min/maxing here, it's really not even a big enough deal to care or change your parse in a way that anyone would notice.

Me I just do the Swiftcast Flare usually because of that, even with the proc, because my personal pot and TA timers make that stronger - which may vary BLM to BLM. What I WILL adapt to though, is if I got an MP tick before combat started ... if you get the MP tick and the F3P, you can do F3P > F4 F4 F1 F4 F4 F3P Swiftcast F4 Convert F4, which is as lenient as it gets to interacting with TA/pot because you can put your Swiftcast in one of two places if you wish.

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Originally Posted by jmdude

There's something I don't understand about the sharpcast opener. If you get a F3P why do you swift cast flare and not fire 4 . They are both instant cast with swiftcast but fire 4 is stronger than Flare and you can still convert do another fire and switch, I really can't wrap my head around why flare is stronger.

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You don't have enough mana to use F4 unless you get an MP tick after casting the first F1.

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Originally Posted by Hontaro

You don't have enough mana to use F4 unless you get an MP tick after casting the first F1.

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I have no problems doing that as a Dunesfolk lala : ^ )

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

I have no problems doing that as a Dunesfolk lala : ^ )

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Strange, last time I tried I was left at around 1040 MP, nowhere near a Fire IV, it doesn't matter which race I am at that point. I'll try it again tomorrow since Chaos datacenter is currently dead it seems.

F4 X6 + F1 works every time with the F1 opener, with a F3P, regardless of race or MP ticks.

The only thing that is altered is if you try to do it later, IE Hontaro's 1040 MP conundrum; most F4 X6 with F3P openers just do F4 F4 F1 F4 F3P instead of F4 F4 F1 F4 F4 F3P, so you have a larger amount of MP at that point. If you try to F4 X6 at the Swiftcast Flare point, normally you can't afford it in place of a Swiftcast Flare. You need an MP tick from the start of the pull, to succeed here.

tl;dr - don't do F4 F4 F1 F4 F4 F3P F4 unless you know what you're doing, your opener allows for it, and you care about literally 300 damage or so, which even I barely do. If you get a F3P, yes go for F4 F4 F1 F4 F3P F4 F4 because it's only better to do anything else if TA/pot make it better to do anything else.

Sleigh, if you don't mind, whats your email? I have something I'd like you to go over if you are willing

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

But yes the whole Swiftcast > F4 > Convert thing wasn't really thought of at 3.0 launch AFAIK.

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I've been doing it since week 1! :P

Hi, just curious how much baseline dps should be expected from this set: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SFJ3
Assuming no party/food/pot over a 3-4 minute duration.

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

Sleigh, if you don't mind, whats your email? I have something I'd like you to go over if you are willing

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I'm no math guy really but if you want any advice or something, hit me up on my Reddit account, Mockbuster.

Gotcha, I'll do that