Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Quick tangent here:
I fully understand that being an OT in a 24 man raid is about as useful as a third nipple, but the few times where we ACTUALLY do things like tanking adds, I swear no one pays us any attention. Here I am taking an ass whooping, health slowly dipping into the red, Living dead that shit, still no heals, boom dead. Meanwhile both healers are in CS goin ham on the boss and I'm sitting there wondering why I'm being punished for doing what little job I have to do. Damn it all!

Pretty sure this has been said in the previous 900 + pages, but caster's who use a LB on a single boss ... when a melee DPS is in the group. Even worse when they do it when the boss is at 100% health.

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Originally Posted by Nyxn607

Pretty sure this has been said in the previous 900 + pages, but caster's who use a LB on a single boss ... when a melee DPS is in the group. Even worse when they do it when the boss is at 100% health.

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Usually that happens when engaging the boss resets the LB bar, so they use their ranged LB to get a free mega hit in before that happens. Not doing so literally wastes any filled bars.

Most bosses in a 24-man alliance raid are subject to this.

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Originally Posted by Nyxn607

Even worse when they do it when the boss is at 100% health.

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I've never understood this attitude about when a LB should be used. Unless a boss has a mechanic that saving an LB for would actually be beneficial like the second set of adds in Sohm Al HM, why does it matter when the LB is used on the last boss? Its very easy to make the argument that using the LB as a finishing move is a waste of an LB and DPS. If the boss has 10K HP left and the LB does 15K then you've just wasted 5K damage; damage that could have been dealt earlier and actually shortened the fight.

As for the melee rage when casters use it, use the LB or lose it. If you're sitting on it and the boss is less than 15% health, I'm going to use it.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

As for the melee rage when casters use it, use the LB or lose it. If you're sitting on it and the boss is less than 15% health, I'm going to use it.

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On that note: In dungeons, ranged should be the ones to LB anyway. At a mere 2 targets (3 for BRD/MCH?), ranged LB already does more damage than melee LB, so even blowing it on trash is better than having the melee LB some boss (unless, of course, the bosses somehow present a terrible threat to you... in which case you might not even know what a LB is >_>).

Sigh....This is one of those realization moments where you think you've seen bad but then someone comes along that makes you question everything. "Quick" 60 roulette to get some script and lore before I logged off. I was WHM. Antitower. 2 new dps. Smn with all 180 & 230 gear, MNK with...level 58 gear and 2 Garo pieces.Okay it might be a little slower because dat 58 gear.


That first tiny pull I spammed Holy until I was OOM and it still wasn't dead yet??? This legitimately surprised me. I waited a good 30 seconds while my MP recovered for them to finally die. I decided to slow my dps a little just to observe the DPS. Every pull the SMN used Bane Painflare Tri disastor spam ruin 3 until no mp then spam ruin 2....in that order. Never even got 3 stacks to enter Dreadwyrm. Repeat until first boss. Which took 8 long minutes. The tank said one thing to the SMN but it was ignored and we continued on.

Oh right the MNK wasn't anything, no positionals but he actually kept up greased lightning III so I guess it was passable and he was outdamaging the SMN 100% of the time, even on AOEs...with his level 58 fists. He was doing well enough, his gear was just yucky.

Anyway this SMN did that exact 5 button combo on every single mob and boss for the entire run. His moveset consisted of Bane Painflare Tri disastor(sometimes) Ruin 3/2 spam. I was in disbelief... I barely DPSd at all from 1st to 2nd boss & I went HAM for about the first 30 seconds of Ziggy and then stopped like a bad bc I was actually curious how long it would take....7 minutes btw. The DPS couldn't kill the rocks either so we almost died a lot while I was being a bad(but hey no one died). At that point the Tank seemed upset with me for not attacking so I apologized and went HAM for the rest of the run...And ended on around 29 minutes. At the end I noticed the SMN stood there spamming ruin 2 when Calcabrina used barrier...just repeatedly and it kept refllecting almost killing him. That actually made me wonder if it was a bot or something <.<

Antitower....29 minutes with me barely DPSing and always outdamaging the SMN on every mob with a single Assize, whether I DPSd that mob or not. Of the 100s of times I have been there since it released in 3.2, that was actually the worst. It upset me that a player could be that awful & it isn't even SEs fault really. They used 5 skills. FIVE. They really don't understand the concept of party based gameplay(says me the hypocrite who stopped DPSing out of curiosity and made the run a good 5~10 minutes longer).

I contemplated saying something to the SMN when I noticed this and decided to go for it but after I typed it out I stopped myself because after reading about all the things where people get kicked for advice and my own experience, I was scared that they may kick me and I really just wanted to do this duty and log off so i just backspaced it...lol.

I've seen a few smns like that in expert roulette. 5 mobs or more.. no shadow flare, no blizz2 just ruin 1 or ruin 3 spam until tridisaster is available then they'll bane.

So, apologies to a party I was in last week for Quarn hard mode. I had just gotten back from getting three teeth pulled at the dentists, and figured "Eh, I don't feel too bad, I'll go ahead and tank some stuff." Thing is, the anesthetic just hadn't worn off yet. Around the first boss I started to hurt, so I had them wait for a second as I took the painkillers I was prescribed. Thing is, painkillers take a while to kick in! So, I'm back to tanking and all the while my mouth is just hurting worse and worse. I start thinking I accidentally got a dry socket (something I was warned could happen if a clot came out), by the time we hit the final boss I was using the gauze less to control the bleeding (which was fine at the time) and more just to have something to bite down on and scream. I don't think I've ever left a dungeon so quickly after completion.

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Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Sigh....This is one of those realization moments where you think you've seen bad but then someone comes along that makes you question everything. "Quick" 60 roulette to get some script and lore before Ilogged off. I was WHM. Antitower. 2 new dps. Smn with all 180 & 230 gear, MNK with...level 58 gear and 2 Garo pieces.Okay it might be a little slower because dat 58 gear.


That first tiny pull I spammed Holy until I was OOM and it still wasn't dead yet??? This legitimately surprised me. I waited a good 30 seconds while my MP recovered for them to finally die. I decided to slow my dps a little just to observe the DPS. Every pull the SMN used Bane Painflare Tri disastor spam ruin 3 until no mp then spam ruin 2....in that order. Never even got 3 stacks to enter Dreadwyrm. Repeat until first boss. Which took 8 long minutes. The tank said one thing to the SMN but it was ignored and we continued on.

Oh right the MNK wasn't anything, no positionals but he actually kept up greased lightning III so I guess it was passable and he was outdamaging the SMN 100% of the time, even on AOEs...with his level 58 fists. He was doing well enough, his gear was just yucky.

Anyway this SMN did that exact 5 button combo on every single mob and boss for the entire run. His moveset consisted of Bane Painflare Tri disastor(sometimes) Ruin 3/2 spam. I was in disbelief... I barely DPSd at all from 1st to 2nd boss & I went HAM for about the first 30 seconds of Ziggy and then stopped like a bad bc I was actually curious how long it would take....7 minutes btw. The DPS couldn't kill the rocks either so we almost died a lot while I was being a bad(but hey no one died). At that point the Tank seemed upset with me for not attacking so I apologized and went HAM for the rest of the run...And ended on around 29 minutes. At the end I noticed the SMN stood there spamming ruin 2 when Calcabrina used barrier...just repeatedly and it kept refllecting almost killing him. That actually made me wonder if it was a bot or something <.<

Antitower....29 minutes with me barely DPSing and always outdamaging the SMN on every mob with a single Assize, whether I DPSd that mob or not. Of the 100s of times I have been there since it released in 3.2, that was actually the worst. It upset me that a player could be that awful & it isn't even SEs fault really. They used 5 skills. FIVE. They really don't understand the concept of party based gameplay(says me the hypocrite who stopped DPSing out of curiosity and made the run a good 5~10 minutes longer).

I contemplated saying something to the SMN when I noticed this and decided to go for it but after I typed it out I stopped myself because after reading about all the things where people get kicked for advice and my own experience, I was scared that they may kick me and I really just wanted to do this duty and log off so i just backspaced it...lol.

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Say I need to go afk bathroom and go afk for a bit and see if the "bot" responds. If it pulls, you kick then. If they respond, after you come back after a few minutes, explain to the SMN the tank was giving them advice and really needs to follow it otherwise it makes the runs slow and what not. If they continue to ignore what was said, lash out like you are fearing, you are in full right in just kicking them.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

The main benefit of Dissipation is the aetherflow stacks, not the healing bonus. You do get three additional Lustrates from it, so it is useful as a clutch tool if you're out of aetherflow stacks and your tank is about to die and you just need to get through the next 10 seconds. The healing bonus is there so that you don't entirely cripple your healing potential due to the loss of the fairy.

That said, the number of times I've actually needed to use it can be counted on one finger, so I agree it could definitely use some improvement to give it a more more consistent functionality.

P.S. Im pretty sure it does affect Lustrate and Indomitibilty, since they're potency based heals. Lustrate used to be percent based, but they nerfed that to be potency healing because SCH could use it during Cleric Stance at full potency.

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Yep, exactly why I used it, tank would of died otherwise, and again, the exact reason why I complained over the overuse of DPS stance in that situation.

So Expert Roulette popped for me at around 8 PM Eorzea time, when I had a node at 3 AM that I really wanted to get. But, given the timing, I really wasn't expecting to be able to clear the dungeon in time.

Sohm Al Hard. The party consists of DRK, WHM, SMN, and BLM. I have honestly never seen the packs in there melt so fast. Props to the DRK, who despite having squishy ilvl 230 gear, did big pulls without having to be prodded. And we killed the Lava Scorpion at 2:30 ET.

I pretty much had to leave ASAP in order to make it to my node, but damn, thanks so much to that party, you guys were great.