Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

They've made a few references to how much we've discussed it a bit... in general it summarizes to
They don't seem to like the word marriage
They think the topic is sensitive in other countries and thusly the name should be changed for that reason aswell
They believe that no one should be excluded.

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So we're all in agreement then? Lol.

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Originally Posted by Serdapi

You are a hero of the word in this game. Different people play that role differently.

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Actually strictly speaking you don't really play any kind of role. The use of MMORPG to describe a situation where you do very little actual role-play outside of RP servers is the reason most call them MMO's now.

Additionally, the role of THE CHARACTER you play (not the role YOU play) is that of an adventurer amongst many adventurers all working together to save the world. This is reflected most upon inspection of the Final Fantasy 14 (an 11) logo showing an innumerable amout of entities. Traditionally in all non-MMO FF games, only the protagonist is shown.

While it is true that your character is given a pivotal role, It is likely best to state that there are other adventurers contributing in equally important ways through-out the realm, but that you are simply not privy to there movements.

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Originally Posted by Colvin

First off, im sure you know what it means but I always kind of reply to the world and not just a person. Having been on forums for so many years I expect people to jump on me for everything, sorry :/

as far as player run, I think you should just make the tools openly available for people and let them do what they will rather than having a "sign-up" system like 11 had in the beginning. EG:

1. Wedding Items freely purchasable from a vendor then engravable or alterable by a crafter
2. Hot wedding/celebration locations available for anyone to just walk in to with a party and have their own instance made.
3. Specialized crafted only items such as celebration cakes and items for sale via players

Essentially have the players drive the process while allowing SE to be as hands off as possible

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Ah, I would hope that there are many tools given by SE. For example the procession having in game camera views and movements set up if desired to have a organized experience. (Like watching a cinematic except you set the cinematic up before hand).

I didnt want a wonderfully seamless yet great looking experience limited to those who have dedicated fraps buddies with a sense of art direction lol.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Ah, I would hope that there are many tools given by SE. For example the procession having in game camera views and movements set up if desired to have a organized experience. (Like watching a cinematic expect you set the cinematic up before hand).

I didnt want a wonderfully seamless yet great looking experience limited to those who have dedicated fraps buddies with a sense of art direction lol.

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I can see where you are comming from. I think, however, there may be some technical issues with this. Certainly, it would be great if there was some kind of "recorder mode" where various angles are show and you can flip between cameras but you would be essentially opening additional view feeds and I don't know the implications on the threading of the game execution if you need to make this available to many different people at once.

I think forming that in to a question as to "how we might have tools to best record pivotal moments, regardless of reason" would be an excellent question for Yoshi-P in a future interview!

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Originally Posted by Colvin

Actually strictly speaking you don't really play any kind of role. The use of MMORPG to describe a situation where you do very little actual role-play outside of RP servers is the reason most call them MMO's now.

Additionally, the role of the character you play (not the role you play) is that of an adventurer amongst many adventurers all working together to save the world. This is reflected most upon inspection of the Final Fantasy 14 (an 11) logo showing an innumerable amout of entities. Traditionally in all non-MMO FF games, only the protagonist is shown.

While it is true that your character is given a pivotal role, It is likely best to state that there are other adventurers contributing in equally important ways through-out the realm, but that you are simply not privy to there movements.

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That is a more accurate statement, mine was meant to be more general. "Hero of the world" meaning mostly what you said, there can be many heroes. Like in the trailer said "bravest among us" aka heroes.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Ah, I would hope that there are many tools given by SE. For example the procession having in game camera views and movements set up if desired to have a organized experience. (Like watching a cinematic except you set the cinematic up before hand).

I didnt want a wonderfully seamless yet great looking experience limited to those who have dedicated fraps buddies with a sense of art direction lol.

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Personally I would like something simple, like the Fable version of it, a quick cut-scene to some stain glass windows and a quick discussion about how the two are bonded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYIv0wJWN8

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Originally Posted by Colvin

I can see where you are comming from. I think, however, there may be some technical issues with this. Certainly, it would be great if there was some kind of "recorder mode" where various angles are show and you can flip between cameras but you would be essentially opening additional view feeds and I don't know the implications on the threading of the game execution if you need to make this available to many different people at once.

I think forming that in to a question as to "how we might have tools to best record pivotal moments, regardless of reason" would be an excellent question for Yoshi-P in a future interview!

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I would imagine that they could easily create a cut scene creator (maybe should have said cut scene over cinematic), just like the Unending Journey book inside the Inn. Where you just pick a scene and go. Except this scene is a little bit player driven.

Everyone gets in room, players are assigned positions, pick their clothes to wear, the ritual type is set and then they press play. The event is watched and then gets saved into your book with everyone who was there saved in it as well.

I wrote a camera/camcorder post before that SE should put in for great team photos and dungeon fights but for particular events I think a more guided process would be appreciated (not that you have to use it).

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

Personally I would like something simple, like the Fable version of it, a quick cut-scene to some stain glass windows and a quick discussion about how the two are bonded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYIv0wJWN8

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In theory the cut scene creator for the ritual would be the same thing except not premade.

One important reason is that SE would have to admit small support or just ignore the LG community and make one cutscene for hetero couples.

Though I agree it shouldnt be too complex.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Everyone gets in room, players are assigned positions, pick their clothes to wear, the ritual type is set and then they press play. The event is watched and then gets saved into your book with everyone who was there saved in it as well.

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Wait, are we still talking about marriage? lol

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Wait, are we still talking about marriage? lol

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lol Was talking about a general system to allow players to make a binding of their choice while also having the game direct scenes for them for better / impossible views and animations.

If the room is rented and the theme of the room is chosen to be wedding style but there is no game support with the cameras it would be hard to create a memorable moment specially if you dont have friends to fraps or something. With this system you get a professional view, animation direction and can also save it to your book of memories (the thing in the Inn).

It doesnt have to be a wedding (hand-fasting) but it could be.

I don't see how anyone is against this discussion on behalf of "wasting resources". Were those people also complaining when the Firedance (which actually included an emote) was included? If you've been in FFXI you'll know that weddings are ultra-cheesy, and unimportant, but a way to make a linkshell have some fun, be dorky and socialize (a thing that many posters need to try some day).

I never got married in FFXI, like I've said before, SSM wasn't allowed and I kinda found them too cheesy since I never expected them to happen. But now, SE has the chance to make a change, and to stop excluding a segment of players. Marriage will be included, that's not up to discussion, it's just up to SE to continue making a group of players alienated just because of their sexual orientation.

I'm not saying I will get married the very first day it is possible, but if I can't because my boyfriend is playing a male Roegadyn instead of a female, I'll be really disappointed in them.