Steam payment HUGE price increase!

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Originally Posted by Zarabeth

One thing. SE did not break it's ToS as the price didn't change. Please stop spreading this misinformation. All that changed was bringing the steam version up to the price everyone else is paying. Basically, SE is now using the normal conversion rate as opposed to regional pricing.

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So changing regional price is not changing the price? When you use steam wallet option in mogstation no one even mentions euro, you just get redirected to steam and see you price in rubles. But everyone says it's okay because price in euro didn't change so they have no obligation to inform us about changes.

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Originally Posted by Zarabeth

One thing. SE did not break it's ToS as the price didn't change. Please stop spreading this misinformation. All that changed was bringing the steam version up to the price everyone else is paying. Basically, SE is now using the normal conversion rate as opposed to regional

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SE still offers regional pricing in the UK/AUS/NZ so square definitly isnt offering the same price to all players. The EU ToS was broken since the prices were stable for 3 years independent of exchange rates and now they are fluctuating daily, the change in the conversion does characterize a price change since one can look at either the currency or the sub price as the variable with the final price being the same

(X*y= z, z is a constant so x and y are dependent of each other, one cannot determinate x without y

A easier way to think is x*2.10= 33brl that was how square saw a purchase (x~= 15 usd)
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10*y = 33brl and thats how costumers see a purchase (y~= 3.3 brl/usd))

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Originally Posted by Envell

So changing regional price is not changing the price? When you use steam wallet option in mogstation no one even mentions euro, you just get redirected to steam and see you price in rubles. But everyone says it's okay because price in euro didn't change so they have no obligation to inform us about changes.

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This is from a legal standpoint. I didn't say it was right.

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Originally Posted by Zarabeth

One thing. SE did not break it's ToS as the price didn't change. Please stop spreading this misinformation. All that changed was bringing the steam version up to the price everyone else is paying. Basically, SE is now using the normal conversion rate as opposed to regional pricing.

That said, the problem most here have is the way SE did this. No prior warning at all and making this change right after releasing Stormblood. Also SE waited just long enough after release that they can't get a refund on the expansion. I know if this had happened to me I would be furious.

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I paid 28 BRL before, now I pay 42, how do we call that again? Oh yeah, a price change.

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Originally Posted by Envell

So changing regional price is not changing the price? When you use steam wallet option in mogstation no one even mentions euro, you just get redirected to steam and see you price in rubles. But everyone says it's okay because price in euro didn't change so they have no obligation to inform us about changes.

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Changing the price is if SE decided in 30 days to add 1 dollar to all sub fees.

Example of what changing a price is. The game use to cost 14.99 a month but now it's 16.99 a month. That's a price change which they would give a warning to.

Example of what's not a price change is. Steam was converting the price of Russian Rupee and the Brazilian BRL to a fee which was less than intended. aka it was 28.99 BRL which equaled to 9.22 USD. Now it's changed to 41.99 which is 13.35 USD.

What changed is the conversion rate, nothing more. SE didn't increase the price of the game, they corrected the pricing on Steam because while the Mog station had the correct price Steam didn't and the players using Rupee and BRL used that loophole to pay a cheaper sub.

No answer. No communication. Try on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ers_and_other/

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Originally Posted by Airget

What changed is the conversion rate, nothing more. SE didn't increase the price of the game, they corrected the pricing on Steam because while the Mog station had the correct price Steam didn't and the players using Rupee and BRL used that loophole to pay a cheaper sub.

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How is it less than intended is they set the price themselves? They chose to implement regional price on their own, it's not like valve forced them or anything.
It's not like ruble value dropped yesterday, it was two years ago. You can't call this fixing a bug.

Airget, now you are spreading misinformation.

There was no loophole. Regional pricing is a comon practice and SE determined the rate on Steam. Some people are saying they "forgot" to fix but if that was the case, they would as soon as our currency droped from 2 reais / dollar to 3.

Also, it's not as if Steam was doing the exchange in an isolated enviroment. All the transaction was made THROUGH Mogstation when paying with the Steam Wallet.

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Originally Posted by Glan

No answer. No communication. Try on steam https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ers_and_other/

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No point posting this issue on reddit, just a glance in that thread and you can already see the same arguments about price all over again.

And what else... Awesome community can show youself (((