Show your... Hyur!!!

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

For the record, his comment did sound as a gratuitous attack to me as well.

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I still don't see the attack on Lauront's post. But I see an attack message from the "victim", on his~ unique alt post.

I always manage the cool poses on my alt jobs... :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV5UVxUV...jpg&name=large

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

For the record, his comment did sound as a gratuitous attack to me as well.

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LOL

This is actually ridiculous, If you read Lauront's posts Im sure you'll see which side of any old flag he's on. Clearly he's stating that a caricature character such as the one shown does nothing for the image that most LGBT people are trying to get away from, we aren't looking to stand out, or looking for any attention.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

LOL

This is actually ridiculous, If you read Lauront's posts Im sure you'll see which side of any old flag he's on. Clearly he's stating that a caricature character such as the one shown does nothing for the image that most LGBT people are trying to get away from, we aren't looking to stand out, or looking for any attention.

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Eww... gross. There is nothing wrong with being yourself. And trying to shame someone into not being their self is honestly just wrong and disgusting. There are all walks of life in every single place in this world. No matter who you are, what you are, where you come from, who you love and not love. Just be yourself and be honest with yourself.

Again there is nothing wrong with being yourself. If you want to be flamboyant then work it! If you want to be quiet and reserved, do you. But no need to come for others and who they are...

Well isn't that just your view as one member of the LGBT community?

I was expressing my view as another member of the SAME community. And fyi, no one came for another, as usual someone took offence at something so silly and petty. Everyone will be taking offence at a simple "hello" next. Good god girl get a GRIP.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

Well isn't that just your view as one member of the LGBT community?

I was expressing my view as another member of the SAME community. And fyi, no one came for another, as usual someone took offence at something so silly and petty. Everyone will be taking offence at a simple "hello" next. Good god girl get a GRIP.

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No. your so called "view" was trying to belittle someone in said community for not being what your viewpoint, morals, or standing in that community is in your so called "view".

So by trying to do that, you were insulting them. I'm sorry... Yes I am part of the LGBTQ+ community and no... as far as I'm aware I never got any memo that stated we as a community were trying to distance ourselves from others and who they are and how they wish to represent themselves. Again you're allowed to have your personal view and opinion. But you better be ready for those who disagree with you and see what you're actually saying. And willing to accept to be called out when it's clearly
hateful and inappropriate.

EDIT: After this message though, I will no longer derail this thread any further. I'm simply just going to blacklist the appropriate people, and some already are.

And all this gay drama started because a weird hair color~ this is why I can't identify myself with that so called LGBT community. I'm gay but I don't like the LGBT community at all. As Pomelo said, if you even say "hello" you are gonna offend someone lol

Well, that's unfortunate. Though it wouldn't be the FFXIV community without excessive hyperbole and an insistence upon reading into things in the worst possible light, would it? I guess I'm free to weigh in on this given that I'm Lauront's partner and all. We're both men. We're together. I'm sure you can figure out what that results in.

Nobody is demanding that the character should be changed, it was a simple comment made in passing. Be flamboyant if you so please, just don't be surprised when some people raise eyebrows when that ends up resulting in stereotypes being enforced.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

And all this gay drama started because a weird hair color~ this is why I can't identify myself with that so called LGBT community. I'm gay but I don't like the LGBT community at all. As Pomelo said, if you even say "hello" you are gonna offend someone lol

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Wait, I'm really lost. So, someone makes a gratuitous negative comment about the LGBT flag, telling another user that his character "would look better without the flag". Said user merely replies stating that there's nothing wrong with the flag and he's proud of it. And then several random people join a discussion that was supposed to be over, acting the most offended while at the same time trying to make the screenshot user look like drama queen.

I for one didn't see any big drama until you and others joined with your blaming. Honestly, I don't know what's going on, but the irony feels quite heavy here.

It seems like an issue to agree to disagree on, no? Not everything translates well through text, after all. Which is precisely why people should not leap to bold conclusions and assume that anything resembling critique is meant as a deeply personal attack.

Though as mentioned earlier, such things seem to go hand in hand with a considerable portion of FFXIV's community. To the extent that simply telling a player to be cautious of a particularly mechanic they persistently die to is considered to be one of the worst things they have ever experienced.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

And all this gay drama started because a weird hair color~ this is why I can't identify myself with that so called LGBT community. I'm gay but I don't like the LGBT community at all. As Pomelo said, if you even say "hello" you are gonna offend someone lol

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Awwww, don't go overboard. I'm not gay, but what I've come to understand is that FFXIV is a safe place for a lot of younger gay players to cut loose and be themselves for a few hours a day, in a manner that would get them harassed or beaten up in their real community. Those flamboyant twinks in their battle bikini briefs are just as likely to be closeted young gentlemen of the south simply relishing an opportunity to be out and proud before having to go back to their bitter brimstone bible thumping meatspace. I can't speak for other countries, but in the states, where you live plays a huge part in how safe someone can be just being themself. Certain parts of our nation are nuts.

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

~ I for one didn't see any big drama until you and others joined with your blaming. Honestly, I don't know what's going on, but the irony feels quite heavy here. ~

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You keep going with the gratuitous negative blah blah. And there's no drama in stating that Lauront's comment wasn't an attack and that instead this other person's post was a childish answer to that. There's no irony on it.

To not keep going on with pages and pages of this nonsense, this will be my last comment. People gets offended so easily these days.

o/

Can we leave the drama out of the "Show your... X" threads? Someone offended you, ok, block them and move on.

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Originally Posted by Johaandr

My "cousin" lmao
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How come I never met your cousin, Evs!

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Originally Posted by -Lilia-

Another alt :o with "regular" ish hair. Still stands out though, that's the aim. ^-^ ❤

https://78.media.tumblr.com/18405940...ztgo1_1280.png

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Love your use of bright colors. :3

Good morning! My first time posting one of these. :)

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...89&oe=5B177F43

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

I don't see the problem on his comment to react as if he's attacking you lol and everyone knows what the flag stands for.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

I still don't see the attack on Lauront's post. But I see an attack message from the "victim", on his~ unique alt post.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

And all this gay drama started because a weird hair color~ this is why I can't identify myself with that so called LGBT community. I'm gay but I don't like the LGBT community at all. As Pomelo said, if you even say "hello" you are gonna offend someone lol

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Are you for real or are you just over-dramatizing the situation? I'll go with the latter. Not everyone knows what the flag stands for from my experience. XD
I wasn't being offensive in any way. As I said to him "Thank you for your opinion I really appreciate it". And yet you see this as an attack? Okay LOL.
He's entitled to his opinion and I actually prefer people who are honest... So I don't know what you're trying to turn this into. As if I'm attacking him??
You need to calm down and make yourself a cuppa honey.
You're the only one who seems to be offended here.
Are you going to see this as an attack too?

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Originally Posted by Theodric

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Okay I haven't actually read all of your posts. Sorry! But that's how much the situation really doesn't bother me. It's like a fart in the wind to me. But anyway I didn't mean any offense. This has of course been over dramatized. Gosh and people say I'm a "victim". I didn't use these words.
I merely replied no one needed to get involved and turn this into something it's not.
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Originally Posted by ErryK

Love your use of bright colors. :3

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Thank you so much!! :D I looove your hair!

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Eww... gross. There is nothing wrong with being yourself. And trying to shame someone into not being their self is honestly just wrong and disgusting. There are all walks of life in every single place in this world. No matter who you are, what you are, where you come from, who you love and not love. Just be yourself and be honest with yourself.

Again there is nothing wrong with being yourself. If you want to be flamboyant then work it! If you want to be quiet and reserved, do you. But no need to come for others and who they are...

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Thank you! :) <3

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

Thank you very much! ;w;
Even if I haven't commented before, I've seen your screens from the Au Ra thread and I love how colourful and unique your characters look.

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More screens of my alts, since I have a hyur army.
Nill Windrider.
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You are such a sweetheart! thank you!! And I love your female char!!! Gorgeous!! <3

Speaking of stereotypes. A guy with pink hair and revealed chest. I can see why this is linked with the flag. Loud colours, loud behavior and the urge to be accepted . That's what it speaks to people. The flag completes the circle by making him more attention seeking. Pointing it out is in no way homophobic.

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Eww... gross. There is nothing wrong with being yourself. And trying to shame someone into not being their self is honestly just wrong and disgusting. There are all walks of life in every single place in this world. No matter who you are, what you are, where you come from, who you love and not love. Just be yourself and be honest with yourself.

Again there is nothing wrong with being yourself. If you want to be flamboyant then work it! If you want to be quiet and reserved, do you. But no need to come for others and who they are...

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So it's a case of be yourself, but don't be yourself, but ... be yourself? Except being yourself is "wrong and disgusting"... right.

Regarding the bolded, it's ironically an attempt at what you supposedly revile, aka shaming, but rebranding it as being "called out".

People such as yourself are, ironically, why I - and many other gay and bi men - prefer having nothing to do with the official so-called LGBTQ+ movement and the myriad of other political groups it's now merged with. Nevermind the frequent inference which arises - though I presume not here - to the effect that not wanting to be associated with this, is somehow a "betrayal" of some movement I never really signed up to, as well as the tendency of some to try and paint "flamboyant" behaviours as going hand in hand with preferring the same gender.

However, much as I appreciate Pomelo's and Rosentretter's comments, mine were simply a comment on the character's appearance. I liked the design, barring those elements, and commented to that effect. In general, and with very few exceptions, I prefer natural hair tones, and yes, the flag adds little IMO. To interpret it as a gratuitous attack, as one other poster did, is folly and the sign of a paranoid mindset. It was a qualified compliment, in a thread I had imagined was not merely a hugbox.

That is all I have to say on the topic.

This is a game x.x I wanted to show my character off and make a fun gay edit. And include the flag. Especially after seeing this artwork~

https://78.media.tumblr.com/be5eaf5a...fztgo1_540.png

Maybe my character doesn't do it justice as I'm half nakie and posing on my own with pink hair. I didn't exactly have the outfit for it either.
This was my first time making a Highlander and I wanted to flaunt his muscular physique!
You don't like the flag? That's okay. You think my Highlander is stereotypical, that's okay! You think I'm attention seeker? Who cares. I know who I am. XD

Show Your Hyur. That's what the thread is for. Express yourself! <3


Anyway! Now that we've flushed that down the toilet.
Let's have fun and get on with the thread~

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Originally Posted by Lauront

However, much as I appreciate Pomelo's and Rosentretter's comments, mine were simply a comment on the character's appearance. I liked the design, barring those elements, and commented to that effect. In general, and with very few exceptions, I prefer natural hair tones, and yes, the flag adds little IMO. To interpret it as a gratuitous attack, as one other poster did, is folly and the sign of a paranoid mindset. It was a qualified compliment, in a thread I had imagined was not merely a hugbox.

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Just to make this clear with you! Because this was to do with us so I just want to close the book on this.
I don't care what you are, as long as you're a nice person.
I was never offended by anything you said and maybe should've chosen my words more gracefully when replying back to you.
I personally never took it as an attack. And I hope you didn't take my reply as that either.

Thank you! I'm flattered that you liked the design regardless of the hair color and flag! ^-^/
I mean I won't be using him as Midlander is more for me but I really appreciate it.

As long as we are clearing things up. Lauront, apologies for getting involved I probably shouldn't have.

-Lilia- I honestly this whole time knew you were alright with what had been said, I only jumped in because another poster thought it was an attack, on something which did not have ANYTHING to do with her, and I was trying to clear up the situation, but probably not in a good or clear way. Woopsie.

Aww it's okay! don't worry about it. :)

To be fair though, mine and Lauront's posts had nothing to do with Rosentretter either.
As you can see, there isn't a problem and there never was so it was very unnecessary to get involved.
Even though the arguments branched off into their own drama, him commenting is what started it.
It was nothing to do with him. He took it in his right to say something, just like the girl took it in her right to say something about it aswell.
That's what I meant by over dramatizing the situation.
I'm not faulting anyone! But if it was just left to me and Lauront to share opinions and converse then none of this would have happened. Just saying.

I find listening to other peoples opinions very interesting. But not if you're going to throw insults or accusations my way. No thank you that is just rude.

Let's try to get this thread back on track shall we?
I was guilty of derailing too earlier.

Some of my new glamours I've gotten this patch! I've loved this patch sooooo much w/ all these amazing glamours!

Feeling my God-ly hood and Greek/Roman feels with these sets!
AST
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https://i.imgur.com/xGKDDM4.jpg

DRK
https://i.imgur.com/igxUkNj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0ZB8G4y.jpg

Crafters
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https://i.imgur.com/UZ6stx9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JtVUrXm.jpg
After a long day crafting grinding wheels.

I'm also diggin' the new PvP sets!

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Originally Posted by Buachalla

I'm also diggin' the new PvP sets!

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Wow you look really good in this! Very nice ^.^ Also thanks for the compliment a few pages back. Keep working on your fierce Hyur and his looks! :3

since I recently fantasiaed....
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Nom to both the above!

Not my hyur, just a random one I saw as I was about to check on my retainers. Thought she looked cool.

https://i.imgur.com/U4uexsL.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lauront

Nom to both the above!

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Agreed! I have to say Ayer made one of the ugliest highlander (imo) faces look good!

I've long known about the potential of that face. I think if you could give it a slightly slimmer jawline and nasal bridge, I might even be tempted to make highlander alts.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I've long known about the potential of that face. I think if you could give it a slightly slimmer jawline and nasal bridge, I might even be tempted to make highlander alts.

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I like the one with the thinnish/small eyes, because they have the best stubble...but they have such bad noses, its huge and I like little noses >.< I'd made several highlanders, and fantasia-ed and I last like a few days, can they have eyebrows to please >.<

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my highlander alt

I <3 this thread

And the lighting in Ifrit and Susano 0.0

They really did add a lot of new cute glam. if only they would release the angel/demon sets. I want those horns badly ^_^

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I threw together a Scarlet Valkyrie glamour.

Weapon: Dead Hive Spear (crafted by CRP)

Helm: Valerian Rune Fencer's Wings, cannot be dyed (DRG drop from Castrum Abania; shares a model with the tank version of the headpiece also from CA)

Body: Armor of the Behemoth Queen, dyed Dalamud Red (2000 Wolf Marks; shares model with Armor of the Behemoth King for tanks)

Arms: Molybdenum Armguards of Maiming, dyed Dalamud Red (crafted by ARM or purchasable from SB gear vendors for 21760 gil; shares model with Molybdenum Armguard series)

Legs: Gaganaskin Hose of Maiming, undyed (crafted by LTW or purchased from certain SB vendors for 33323 gil; shares model with Viking Hose and Berserker Hose)

Feet: Doman Steel Greaves of Maiming, dyed Dalamud Red (crafted by ARM or purchased from SB gear vendors for 21641 gil, shares model with other Doman Steel Greaves)

Earrings: Koppranickel Earrings of Slaying (crafted by GSM or purchased from SB gear vendors for 15741 gil; shares model with other Koppranickel Earrings)

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