Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by xyaie

been skimming through it, but havent seen anything. any rough estimate on how much %-wise of a DPS boost dragoons got?

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I'm estimating 8%-ish total for Dragoons (ran the same rotation with same stats through the old and new models), although that is a slight underestimate because it doesn't include the pre-patch Jump delaying the GCDs (e.g. jumps exceeded oGCD windows). I think net will be about 9% total, so close to Yoshi's 10% estimate.

Overall, good deal. Dragoon AOE also increased by 5% (HT buff).


Don't have Monk estimates for pre- and post-patch. I'm estimating Monks as about 8% higher ST DPS than DRGs post-patch, though. So, actually pretty good parity when you consider DE for the Bard.

Monks retain the better utility with the Int debuff and traited Mantra, but DRGs maintain higher burst and more resilience against mechanics.

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Originally Posted by EasymodeX

No, that post was talking about the race for second place.

This is still the highest modeled DPS:

H IDC P TTT H TTT
P IDC H TTT P TTT

This is second:

HP IDC TTT

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I think i missed your legend for your skill Acronym's. I'm not sure which skills your referring unless you are bunching skills together.

H = Heavy Thrust
P = Phlebotomize
IDC = Impulse Drive, Disembowel, Chaos Thrust
TTT = True Thrust, Vorpal Thrust, Full Thrust

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Originally Posted by EasymodeX

General in-game observations point to Jump still being 200p with the tooltip being inaccurate.

E.g. it does pretty much the same damage as a combo'd Vorpal.

Sidenote: makes me wonder about FT. Should test >.>

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Did you test, by any chance?

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Originally Posted by EasymodeX

H = Heavy Thrust
P = Phlebotomize
IDC = Impulse Drive, Disembowel, Chaos Thrust
TTT = True Thrust, Vorpal Thrust, Full Thrust

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DRGs; not enough Thrust.

Hey guys, a quick question for more exp dragoons.

I'm about to hit 50 and have been researching gear trying to figure out the best path for upgrade. I've got most of the DL jewelry, mixture of maiming/striking for accuracy, and a full AK set. I'm not able to equip everything yet to see what the total stats look like, but it seems like only a few DL pieces have accuracy, and really only a few myth pieces. I understand there is a chunk of accuracy on the relic (and also some nice acc stats on the new CT gear), but are their any suggestions for upgrade paths? I'm not thrilled about upgrading to DL, aside from 2 pieces there isn't that much str/vit boost over AK gear. Would AK gear + DL jewelry be enough to get through Titan HM for relic? Any suggestions are appreciated! :D

(PS thanks for the awesome rotations guide, it's nice how all the DoTs and buffs seem to line up perfectly with the right rotation)

@ Whiskeybravo

So long as you meet the new minimum avg. item level requirement for Titan, you're golden. You can get the new gear from HM Haukke Manor and Copper Bell Mines. I want to say the ilvel 60 gear that was in AK is now in the new Pharos dungeon.

They're in Haukke and Copperbell as far as I've seen. Along with some new pieces. They look to be spread out between dungeons now.

Thanks, I forgot about the ilvl requirements now. I got a few new pieces from Copperbell HM, pretty much the same stats as AK just shuffled around a bit. I was mainly concerned about the DL, as 2 points doesn't seem worth it for the upgrade when loosing the accuracy. I guess I'll just have to wait to equip everything and see what can be improved from there. Trying to save myth for +1 whm and War uppers. The CT gear looks good but only 1 chance a week to get loot? That's gonna take longer than myth lol

Can someone explain to me the difference between stat weights and item budget weights?

I see the stat weights listed as:

STRDEX 1
DTR** 0.209
CRT 0.179
SS 0.158

Item budget weights:

DTR 2.28
CRT 2.86
SS 2.55