Please don't harass people for ignoring/disliking the story

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Originally Posted by Ralphe2449

Reading some comments it almost feels like some people want the story to be as boring and terrible as wow’s, where you don’t have any depth and it is just ‘lol bad guy appears in new xpac, lol bad guy dies in end of xpac’ and the lore is literally just ‘watch YouTube videos of lore nerds talking about how that one item descriptions requires an hour long video.

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You've just described Endwalker.

I bet you couldn't stay out of the forums for a week (even a couple days). The thought of someone not knowing your thoughts on Endwalker would make you lose sleep. :rolleyes: Sadge life.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I bet you couldn't stay out of the forums for a week (even a couple days). The thought of someone not knowing your thoughts on Endwalker would make you lose sleep. :rolleyes: Sadge life.

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Yeah, I thought he was gone when diofield chronicle released, but it seems he's back already. Must not have been very good or lasted long enough.

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

Congratulations on being the exact person the OP is trying to get through to. I've been around this game since 2.0, I don't need you, or anyone else to lecture me about what I can and cannot like about it. I took nothing personally and insulted nobody, All I did was point out the obvious flaw in in a continously growing and mandatoy MSQ, and suggested I don't like it. You then went and wrote War and Peace trying to point out how arrogant I am, how inane I am, how hypocritical I am and how childish I am, how demanding I am and how I want the game to cater to me. You then go on to say I am the one taking things personally.... amazing.

I'm not going to bother snip quoting and pointing out all the obvious flaws in your rant, I'd rather play the MSQ and that says something! Just calm yourself down, stop evangelising and understand that not everyone wants to slog through 500 hours of a game before they get to the bit they actually wanted to do.

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Hyperbole, thy name is Artemiz. "War and Peace"? /eyeroll

There aren't any "flaws" in what I said though, and your response here is a classic example of someone putting their fingers in their ears going "lalala can't hear you." You clearly didn't pay any attention to my post at all, as you're proving exactly what I typed... you took it as a personal attack, projecting all the while. To be expected on these forums. :rolleyes:

I repeat: not everything is for everyone, and that's ok. Stop expecting everything to change to cater to you.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

You've just described Endwalker.

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Well, I suppose, minus the "boring" and "terrible" parts, and the "don't have any depth", and the "lore is just watch YT videos"...so basically, pretty much "except for the entirety of the post", but...meh *shrugs shoulders*

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I bet you couldn't stay out of the forums for a week (even a couple days). The thought of someone not knowing your thoughts on Endwalker would make you lose sleep. :rolleyes: Sadge life.

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I bet you couldn't stay out of the forums for a week let alone a few days (or even 12 hours) either. You post far more often than Aveyond does after all. :rolleyes:;):cool::eek:

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Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

I bet you couldn't stay out of the forums for a week let alone a few days (or even 12 hours) either. You post far more often than Aveyond does after all. :rolleyes:;):cool::eek:

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How can someone with a lower post count post more than the person you say they're posting more than? Also are you one of their stalkers or something?

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Originally Posted by SannaR

How can someone with a lower post count post more than the person you say they're posting more than? Also are you one of their stalkers or something?

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Take a 3 second look at their post histories and done.

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Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

Take a 3 second look at their post histories and done.

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How does doing that equal to Deveryn having almost 300 posts fewer than Aveyond as him posting more? Unless you want me to believe that they've had almost that number of posts deleted. Which to me would come off a bit strange as I can't see how someone who'd have that many posts deleted wouldn't have been oh idk banned by now? Or are you suggesting that they love to edit their posts to get around the daily post limit? And that somehow they're meeting said limit often enough to need to keep on re-editing their posts while also somehow not ending up surpassing said other poster. Also you never said what kind of burger you liked. Or do you just like to come in with quick quips and dunking back out on things?

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Originally Posted by SannaR

How does doing that equal to Deveryn having almost 300 posts fewer than Aveyond as him posting more? Unless you want me to believe that they've had almost that number of posts deleted. Which to me would come off a bit strange as I can't see how someone who'd have that many posts deleted wouldn't have been oh idk banned by now? Or are you suggesting that they love to edit their posts to get around the daily post limit? And that somehow they're meeting said limit often enough to need to keep on re-editing their posts while also somehow not ending up surpassing said other poster. Also you never said what kind of burger you liked. Or do you just like to come in with quick quips and dunking back out on things?

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youre thinking about this way too hard

go get some fresh air lol

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Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

I bet you couldn't stay out of the forums for a week let alone a few days (or even 12 hours) either. You post far more often than Aveyond does after all. :rolleyes:;):cool::eek:

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start the clock. See you next Wednesday.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

youre thinking about this way too hard

go get some fresh air lol

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Am I though? Also ok sure Jan.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Am I though? Also ok sure Jan.

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you wrote a whole ass paragraph on peoples post counts

you sure are lmfao

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

You've just described Endwalker.

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It's not really an accurate description for WoW though.
If you really want a good description of WoW's storyline with XIV equivalents it'd be "Yeah we're still dredging up Nidhogg, Hraesvelgr and Ysayle in the literal afterlife cause we need to milk the most successful point of our franchise to no end now that we have no idea how to organically progress the plot in new ways that don't rely on nostalgia bait"
Though this comparison has kinda made me realize how similar Arthas and Estinien are, so maybe it's not too off-base.

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Originally Posted by Ameela

Though this comparison has kinda made me realize how similar Arthas and Estinien are, so maybe it's not too off-base.

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Arthas killed an entire kingdom and thought he was in the right all the way to the grave. As far as I know, Estinien hasn't done that (yet).

Arthas' legacy also got ripped apart to try and make a worthless, soulless husk try and have some modicum of a relevant backstory (Sylvanas, if you didn't guess!) and it failed horribly. Even to the point of burning other storylines just to try and make us feel bad for a genocide-crazed lunatic. (That even Blizzard themselves realized was a stupid idea. Mid-Bloody-Expansion.) When the creators don't even want to acknowledge that expansion exists -one single chapter later-, you know somethings wrong.

I'm not saying FF is perfect, mind.. They certainly pushed Zenos' obsession with the WoL a bit much, but at least that felt "in character" rather than forced into our faces.

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Originally Posted by Kenky

Arthas killed an entire kingdom and thought he was in the right all the way to the grave. As far as I know, Estinien hasn't done that (yet).

Arthas' legacy also got ripped apart to try and make a worthless, soulless husk try and have some modicum of a relevant backstory (Sylvanas, if you didn't guess!) and it failed horribly. Even to the point of burning other storylines just to try and make us feel bad for a genocide-crazed lunatic. (That even Blizzard themselves realized was a stupid idea. Mid-Bloody-Expansion.) When the creators don't even want to acknowledge that expansion exists -one single chapter later-, you know somethings wrong.

I'm not saying FF is perfect, mind.. They certainly pushed Zenos' obsession with the WoL a bit much, but at least that felt "in character" rather than forced into our faces.

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Too be honest, I kinda like the idea of how obsessive he was and it was entertaining to watch him and Fandaniel be little gremlins in their own ways. It also actually got him to get some actual positive character growth towards the end about it too. At the very least, he was given a wonderful send-off and I seriously hope his death stays that way.

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Originally Posted by Kenky

Arthas killed an entire kingdom and thought he was in the right all the way to the grave. As far as I know, Estinien hasn't done that (yet).

Arthas' legacy also got ripped apart to try and make a worthless, soulless husk try and have some modicum of a relevant backstory (Sylvanas, if you didn't guess!) and it failed horribly. Even to the point of burning other storylines just to try and make us feel bad for a genocide-crazed lunatic. (That even Blizzard themselves realized was a stupid idea. Mid-Bloody-Expansion.) When the creators don't even want to acknowledge that expansion exists -one single chapter later-, you know somethings wrong.

I'm not saying FF is perfect, mind.. They certainly pushed Zenos' obsession with the WoL a bit much, but at least that felt "in character" rather than forced into our faces.

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Well I'm not saying it's even comparable in terms of writing quality, just pointing out what a WoW-like XIV expansion would look like lol
As for the Arthas and Estinien thing, I was mostly talking about how they're both "chosen ones" with a single-minded obsession with revenge that leads them down the path of seeking ever higher power through forbidden artifacts which eventually literally consumes them and causes them to raze the kingdom they once fought to protect.
Obviously Arthas is a bit more... unhinged... than Estinien (though even this is arguable given the ARR DRG job quests) but at the end of the day they both do kind of end up in the same place due to similar circumstances. You can even take it a step further and draw parallels between Alberic and Uther.

Imagine a world where people can leave people alone about their literally harmless opinions and let them play the game how they want when it is hurting absolutely no one.

Wew, this thread got really funny really fast. That EW comment really ruffled some feathers, lmao.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

You've just described Endwalker.

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Another post from the vocal minority. Do you have a sponsor? As far as WoW story there is no comparison. WoW is the epitome of absolute drivel. It is the very bottom of the barrel. I know one of these sponsored kids will drop in here and say err duhh like Endwalker. There I said it to save you some time. If you don't enjoy FFXIV do yourself a favor and take a break from the game. Nobody is forcing you to play it. Stop polluting the forums with the same garbage daily. I need new toilet reading. Thanks!