Building a better Alphinaud

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

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Before it's brought up as a nit-pick, there's also post-Vauthry Eulmore and the Crystarium.

I don't think you missed them on purpose. But just FYIing.

Of all the scions ( and honestly like literally any one NPC, save for emet & tsuyu imo ) we should not be worried about building a better Alphinaud.

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Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus

Before it's brought up as a nit-pick, there's also post-Vauthry Eulmore and the Crystarium.

I don't think you missed them on purpose. But just FYIing.

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I forget the First exists most of the time, tbh.

Crystarium was a non-republic before. Not sure what they are now. Eulmore is the only real republic on the First. The Viis, Ondo, Dwarves, and Il Mheg all seem to be variations of monarchy or chiefdom. I also forgot about the Indigo Deep on the Source, which was a monarchy and will probably be one again once they have a new queen. Then there's the Gnath which are a... thing... and their supreme ruler is still kicking.

Eulmore's Vauthry-era government was processing unwanted residents into Soylent Beige and feeding them to the others. Vauthry had no heirs, to all evidence, and the current situation was obviously not sustainable. We don't actually know what their political situation is enough to say it's now a full republic - if Chai-Nuzz has to specify that he doesn't intend to be mayor for life, that sounds like what is technically known as an elective monarchy(!!!), where people vote in a leader and then they stay for life.

I honestly don't remember what the Crystarium's political situation is supposed to be now that the Exarch's gone, but given that G'raha's from Sharlayan, pushing them towards some sort of representative democracy (like what he grew up with) makes total sense.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

That's a very long post just to define the word "copium".

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It is not the copium it is the hopium. Is important so listen.

Let us teach correct way. You see the movie be release with the character you do not like? Example: we do not like the Super Man but there is new movie to be release. Do we keep silence and not watch movie. Wrong. We must write the angry letter to the producer asking them to release the Super Man movie about the Iron Man instead because we like the Iron Man better. This is the same.

Final Fantasy 14 story is written about the Scion at start. This keep happening for the 10 year time. We do not like the Scion or the story or the game but we still pay the money sub. We expect the story to stop being about the Scion but it still not happen. Is strange. So we write the many letter on the forum to get the story direction fix to the one write by the lackluster story writers guild with God Meteo who sacrifice the Loprabbits at end of story to get revenge on the evil God Hydelyn. Soon the Hildabrand story will also be write second time to fix for the relic quest. Will now use the style of Game of the Thrones with the blood shed. Is important for suspence.

There are many of the character that the player must like better than the twin. Character like the God King Varis or the Scottish Fordola or the Mad King Theod of the Al Amigos or the Stranger Knight Jack Garland. These are all the character with the rugged look but not too rugged to make player feel threat. It is the Twitter crowd and the forum paladin who try to enforce the gender fluid attack tech of Omega twins.

World like the democracy but the fiction world should have the diversity so we player can elect type of govern that we want. If we are in the Limsa we should be able to elect the King for Limsa instead of the Minister Merlywerble. If we are in the Gridania we should be able to elect the Dictatorship for Gridania instead of the Seed eaters (I forget the name). This is part of the player choice.

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Originally Posted by Graeham

We do not like the Scion or the story or the game but we still pay the money sub.

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And who is this "We" you're referring to? I'm sure there is more of you, but the copium part here is it seems you want to believe your "we" is the majority without any kind of evidence like you admitted yourself. There are another "we" who enjoy it.

Also I think people seem to mix up something here. If you simply want to say "ok it has been a great ride but we would like something new" I would agree with you. I want to see some new cast taking the spotlight too with the current scion taking the backstage for now. But that's not because the last 10 years is bad, or people the scions story are annoying. For an MMO, FF14 had delivered the most well developed cast of NPC bar none. No other MMO ever since the genre was created has come remotely close in term of story telling, narrative, or character developments. And yes, I'm bolding the MMO for a reason, I hope I don't have to explain what that reason is.

It's ok to say you like something, and want something new at the same time. But these days I feel like it's almost a rule that people are obligated to talk down something in order to say they like something else.

FFXIV wants to now appeal to the single player crowd so I will hold it to the standard of other single player rpgs. Its cast of npcs is found wanting.

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Originally Posted by Graeham

This keep happening for the 10 year time. We do not like the Scion or the story or the game but we still pay the money sub.

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I had exactly the same thoughts about Sylvanus Windrunner in World of Warcraft ... from the time she became "War Chief" of the Horde. Doesn't mean that the developers of that game have to listen to me, mind you (and they didn't).

You either enjoy the story or stop paying money for it. I chose to abandon WoW. This one is fine. I'm one of those people who actually enjoy the Scions.

You want something different? There's always fan fiction, although that is best posted on AO3, rather than in the forums.

Because goodness forbid that feedback is actually listened to so that people don't get pushed out of the games they like.

Found wanting by who? Are there more people who dislike that Alphinaud doesn't physically hit people, than there are people who like having a male character who has power without being physically strong? Because if the NPC setup is "found wanting" by ten people, but fifteen people love it, then it is actually a good business idea to keep this NPC setup.

(Estinien is over six feet tall and repeatedly talks about how his primary role on the team is to hit people real hard. Thancred has never done anything but physical combat, and G'raha, who's got some decent muscle on him when you see his arms, started as an archer and can tank just fine in Trusts. So it's not like there are no physically strong men in the group. But Alphinaud's "politically oriented support/healer class" character type is more commonly female, and I like seeing a male version.)

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Because goodness forbid that feedback is actually listened to so that people don't get pushed out of the games they like.

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You do realize this is a 2 way street yes? You speak as if everyone can be pleased which will never be the case. By your logic folks that want xiv to have a battle royal mode should be listened to simply because if they aren't it pushes them away. That's not how this works

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Because goodness forbid that feedback is actually listened to so that people don't get pushed out of the games they like.

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This is the problem:

Sincerely, I really love G’raha Tia. As far as I’m concerned, they could add even more focus on him to the game and it would be 100% gravy for me. Logically, I understand there are people that loathe G’raha as much as I love him, so I support options that minimize the time the player is required to interact with him and negative replies in addition to positive/neutral ones when options to reply are given. This would allow the playerbase leeway in how they see their WoL respond to him on a personal level. (I support this for all the Scions, actually.)

However, you’ve made it clear through your posting that nothing less than a purge of G’raha Tia would show that the developers value you as a player. But why should your desire for a completely G’raha-free experience supersede my desire for a complete G’raha experience? I’m willing to meet haters halfway and say most of that experience I desire should be optional, but you won’t even acknowledge that players like me exist.

Why should I be remotely sympathetic to your desires and feelings for the game with the way you present your arguments as to how it should progress? Why should I think your desires are more important than my own, as someone who likes both G’raha and Alphinaud?

G’raha Tia is my favorite character in the game; don’t be mean to the cute cat-man.

People are 100% allowed to give feeback otherwise quite a few here would be banned from this forum if it wasnt the case...but being allowed to give feedback does not mean that SE has to listen to you, especially when its in regard to something highly subjective like the story.

So if seemingly the story and most of the content is bad for you, maybe it is time to find another game. (And this is coming from someone who has complained a lot too) If I did not like Endwalker and did not look forward to a couple of future updates I would not be playing it anymore. Endwalker is the PERFECT opportunity to drop the game if you dont like the direction its going. The first big arc is finished and it will take some time for the new one to start.

I have been here for years and I lost count how often some of you said that expansion x would be the breaking point. How some even after Endwalker said that they wont sub anymore. Just to have you all still here, complaining quite a lot while also giving SE not only the sub money but also cash shop money on top of that. Why should they change anything if the absolute worst state of the game (in some of your opinions) is seemingly still good enough to pay for?

About the topic: I love the Twins. They are one of my favorite characters. I would not want them to be changed at all.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Because goodness forbid that feedback is actually listened to so that people don't get pushed out of the games they like.

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I can honestly feel your passion for this game, but I'm starting to think you're either setting your expectations too high or maybe you need to find another game/hobby to occupy your time. This is turning into your Hildibrand Relic thread all over again. You're walking a fine line between expressing feedback and insulting other's preferences and then wondering why people are digging in their heels towards your ideas. Nobody enjoys being told their faves should be deleted from the game or heavily tweaked just because you think your vision is better. Healthy discussion is fine, but I'm no longer seeing anything constructive here.

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Originally Posted by TsuchinokoPanda

I can honestly feel your passion for this game, but I'm starting to think you're either setting your expectations too high or maybe you need to find another game/hobby to occupy your time. This is turning into your Hildibrand Relic thread all over again. You're walking a fine line between expressing feedback and insulting other's preferences and then wondering why people are digging in their heels towards your ideas. Nobody enjoys being told their faves should be deleted from the game or heavily tweaked just because you think your vision is better. Healthy discussion is fine, but I'm no longer seeing anything constructive here.

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Their expectations are always high. The op and those who share their views about the game are always like this where any suggestion that doesn't go to the extent or isn't as extreme as theirs is not good enough. Along with showing any examples of times the Scions not being on the same page, that all of the governments aren't the same, or that everyone must want and think that the guy in the what a Chad meme is not only what everyone pictures as masculine but is also their cup of tea.

Any kind of disagreement gets shot down or it doesn't count for some reason. While you might get called names and saying that they're being shut down and made to feel as though they can't share their opinions. When asked to show proof of the shut down they never point to the forums they cite Twitter and Reddit and Discords that I'm fairly sure most who post here aren't apart of. Not saying that some who disagree with their views haven't stooped to name calling, but those on the OP's pull out the Woe is me card fairly quickly. To the point that you can't even use real life allegories or parallels or they'll claim that you're saying that they like the things you used in your argument. If not outright calling them said things.

Not that they have gone and outright said it, but I'm fairly sure they'd want the Scions to being prey to the "Protagonists have a fight or misunderstanding that shouldn't even be a thing before the beginning of the 3rd act" cliche. For at least the expansions. Maybe even the .5 patches. I'd hate to think or assume that they'd want them to be always disagreeing as I'm fairly sure we'd get a lot more of the player base wondering if the Scions are really supposed to be friends or even like each other. As I doubt many would want to see constant headbutting.

I think Alphinaud is fine and that he has slowly, but surely refining his debating and negotiating skills. While also learning that not everyone was born as privileged as he was let alone as rich as he was. Remember he started out as your typical spoiled rich brat who then got taught basic survival skills by an ex shepherd turned dragoon.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I think the absolute last people I want to see return in 6.2 (besides G'raha Tia) are the twins, them and their father have probably had the run of Garlemald for some time now and I have no interest in seeing one of my favourite locations brought to heel under the ideals of Sharlayan democracy.

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Did you...do...the role quest? Fourchenault offered Garleans sanctuary in Sharlayan. Some took him up on it. Some decided they wanted to try to rebuild and there was talk of getting their remaining Senate together. And some decided they wanted no part of either option and are going to the moon. In none of that did Fourchenault try to push any ideas of Sharlayan democracy and he was very much hands-off in how they wanted to run things, only offering to assist them in the endeavor they chose.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Did you...do...the role quest? Fourchenault offered Garleans sanctuary in Sharlayan. Some took him up on it. Some decided they wanted to try to rebuild and there was talk of getting their remaining Senate together. And some decided they wanted no part of either option and are going to the moon. In none of that did Fourchenault try to push any ideas of Sharlayan democracy and he was very much hands-off in how they wanted to run things, only offering to assist them in the endeavor they chose.

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No but democracy bad, so it existing in the same in-game boundaries means it got pushed.
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Originally Posted by Simple_Barghest

No but democracy bad, so it existing in the same in-game boundaries means it got pushed.
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Never mind that Garlemald was a republic before it was an empire and the senate existed from that time and was carried on. It just lost power in favor of the military, but they were still public officials who offered counsel to the Emperor. It makes sense that citizens would turn to them for some form of government, especially since most of the military legions (or maybe all? I'd have to check some stuff) are defunct now and they were the other major non-imperial power.

Times like these I am reminded of how Archades was wrapped up in the aftermath of FFXII. Larsa, who unlike Alphinaud didn't regress in terms of his characterization and was less preachy besides, ended up becoming Emperor. With the senate and their political machinations out of the way and under control, a new positive future awaited them without completely uprooting their political system.

What an intriguing concept. If only such care was given to FFXIV's Garlean Empire, instead the writers choosing to exclude Gaius from its narrative in Endwalker, refuse to flesh out characters like Nerva, and leave the Leveilleur family to set up a samey republican provisional government as has been done many times in the past. This song and dance has gotten too old and it needs to be called out at every available juncture so that the message is made clear that this cannot be repeated again and that it has thoroughly disappointed those of us who are fans of the Empire. We exist.

I hope that in the future and for the sake of this game's longevity that Alphinaud and the remaining scions are permanently benched in favor of a more interesting party. The route of having immortal forever characters (who also happen to all look the same) does not make for anything good outside preserving the feelings of the twitter community, who would be quick to attach themselves to the latest new posterboy regardless.

6.2, from both a gameplay and story perspective, represents a make or break moment for the game. I do hope that they restore people's confidence in both, but after all that has happened since the launch of Endwalker a lot of confidence and goodwill has been lost.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

choosing to exclude Gaius from its narrative in Endwalker

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Did you miss him in the cutscene in Ala Mhigo telling us it would be a majorly bad idea to come with us because he was persona non grata for being accused of killing the Emperor?

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

leave the Leveilleur family to set up a samey republican provisional government as has been done many times in the past

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Yeah, you didn't do the role quest.

Do you see why I considered that writing to not make full use of existing characters and why it was disrespectful to those of us who are fans of the Empire?

What did you want Fourchenault to do? The entire royal family is dead except for Zenos. Zenos has been exiled, doesn't want to rule, and would clearly be horrible at it. Gaius refuses to set foot in the country because half the population wants him dead because they think he killed Varis (which means he can't effectively govern them, because he doesn't have the military strength to force them to obey). The only Garlean candidate I can see for an actual monarch at that point is Vergilia van Corculum, who at least still has the Third Legion, and she really doesn't seem like she wants to be empress. "Well, you used to have a Senate, right? Let's have the surviving members run things while you decide how to put a government together" seems reasonable enough.

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Originally Posted by Sarkany

What did you want Fourchenault to do? The entire royal family is dead except for Zenos. Zenos has been exiled, doesn't want to rule, and would clearly be horrible at it. Gaius refuses to set foot in the country because half the population wants him dead because they think he killed Varis (which means he can't effectively govern them, because he doesn't have the military strength to force them to obey). The only Garlean candidate I can see for an actual monarch at that point is Vergilia van Corculum, who at least still has the Third Legion, and she really doesn't seem like she wants to be empress. "Well, you used to have a Senate, right? Let's have the surviving members run things while you decide how to put a government together" seems reasonable enough.

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There's this wonderful idea of having the writers not kill off the entire royal family or come up with bad reasons to exclude characters from the story, as well as making use of existing characters with leadership qualities that could potentially ascend the throne.

I wasn't aware that White hair makes everyone look the same.
So a Human, 4 elves, and a catgirl, all look the same because of White hair. lol. Nevermind the differences in hairstyles, body structure and attire. But ok.
Im not so quick to discard my faith in this game because of a couple of blunders. Until the game becomes 100% unenjoyable, I will keep playing, 6.2 looks and sounds exciting, cant wait.

What existing characters with leadership qualities do you think they should have used instead? Who should Fourchenault have put on the throne?

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Originally Posted by Sarkany

What existing characters with leadership qualities do you think they should have used instead? Who should Fourchenault have put on the throne?

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Willingness to break bread with and make peace with other parties while still maintaining a firm stance as to what is most beneficial for one's people. The intriguing aspect of having to take risks and controversial actions in order to act in the nation's benefit. That sort of thing. A well developed Larsa, and Ashe, etc. In FFXIV's case I think the most competent surviving leader would be Gaius, and I could easily picture a scenario in which he takes the throne.

So you're just totally going to ignore my post in favor of beating the dead political horse again, huh? Don't you get tired of C&Ping the same post ad nauseam?

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Originally Posted by Sarkany

What existing characters with leadership qualities do you think they should have used instead? Who should Fourchenault have put on the throne?

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Jullius, since they are making him "look" like he's in charge, just make him new Empror so he has a Happy-ish ending in all of this.
Maxima, just because hes handsome and looks cool, plus he was an advisor, so just make him Emperor....just cause
Make Lucia leave Ishgard all of a sudden because she misses home and hates to see it in the state its in. And cause RA-RA Feminism

I jest, but at the same time.....rofl

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Willingness to break bread with and make peace with other parties while still maintaining a firm stance as to what is most beneficial for one's people. The intriguing aspect of having to take risks and controversial actions in order to act in the nation's benefit. That sort of thing. A well developed Larsa, and Ashe, etc. In FFXIV's case I think the most competent surviving leader would be Gaius, and I could easily picture a scenario in which he takes the throne.

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I knew you'd still say Gauis even after its been established he kind of cant return. Not yet at least.
And...who is to say he won't suddenly make Garlamald into something you hate since he effectively defected and left?
Also...the Eorzea Alliance tried to do that already, nobody wanted to listen and justified their expansion and killing. And then just flipped it and said "Well you killed and expanded to"

For the discussion on who Fourchenault should have decided would be in charge of the remaining Garleans: I can see Gaius trying, under the right circumstances, but given the same canon that got us to that point (if you want to write your own AU, that's great, but I don't think it's terribly useful for this discussion) I think that'd only be delaying the inevitable. He doesn't have the people's backing, that's why he canonically refused to go back; I don't imagine that would get better if the Sharlayan Forum put him on the throne. The Garleans themselves chose the Senate members at some point; no one ever wanted Gaius to actually be running the country. Even the people who don't hate him for "killing Varis" would look at that and assume he was a puppet for the Alliance or Sharlayan. We don't know if he has the military's backing, which he needs to deal with the fact that a good chunk of his new subjects want him dead, but I wouldn't want to bet on it in his position. The people involved in this also need to persuade Vergilia that Gaius, who was the same rank as her until he lost the Eorzea campaign spectacularly, killed the previous emperor, and fled the country, is now the emperor and she has to follow his orders. She has the actual legion here. He doesn't. He's going to be dead in a month, and then they're back in the same position with more angry people.

(Barring, of course, the Alliance sending in their own armed forces and essentially turning it into an actual puppet government. I can see Gaius managing to hold the throne with a lot of outside support. But if the goal is to remove outside influence on the Garleans, I don't think that would be an improvement.)

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I think the most competent surviving leader would be Gaius, and I could easily picture a scenario in which he takes the throne.

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I can't. After the Werlyt questline, I think he's got a very good reason to want to be done with all that nonsense. He still cares about his homeland, but I can't remotely see him wanting to be in charge. Especially because he's come to see that he did some pretty wrong actions thinking they were the right things. Plus he knows Maxima is there and working on helping to rebuild. He can stay doing his own things with his new companions, and his daughter, and be his own person for once in his life now.

One more point I just recalled, he's also part of Werlyt's provisional government and he was protecting that area from Blasphemies in Endwalker. So his focus seems to be on his new home now, and since he has Allie to look after, it makes sense he wouldn't want to put a target on the back of his only remaining child by trying to be in control of somewhere like Garlemald. Even if the truth about Varis came out, he would still have enemies in that sort of position. He probably has some even where he is with Werlyt.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I can't. After the Werlyt questline, I think he's got a very good reason to want to be done with all that nonsense. He still cares about his homeland, but I can't remotely see him wanting to be in charge. Especially because he's come to see that he did some pretty wrong actions thinking they were the right things. Plus he knows Maxima is there and working on helping to rebuild. He can stay doing his own things with his new companions, and his daughter, and be his own person for once in his life now.

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We're going way off tangent, but besides being accused of regicide, he's also a deserter. He can talk his way out of the accusations around murdering Varis since the lead witness and actual perpetrator is a traitor, but he 100% deserted his legion to pursue a personal vendetta against the Ascians and then started feeding information to the Eorzean Alliance. You'd need to rewrite elements of the story going back years to make Gaius a valid candidate for the throne.

While they could have introduced a Larsa-equivalent, it was a bit late in the game to do that and we'd just be repeating the same story as FFXII all over again. Just because it worked for one game doesn't mean it will work for another or needs to happen again. Regardless, Garlemald is neutered and can't really do anything large scale anymore. The writers left the fates of the remaining legions vague if they want to use them again for something, but we also might be stepping into territory the game has already been before if they have yet another rogue legion like the IVth or the VIIth. Legati and princes vying for the throne ended up destabilizing and destroying the country so it's probably best that they do away with the throne anyway.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

We're going way off tangent, but besides being accused of regicide, he's also a deserter. He can talk his way out of the accusations around murdering Varis since the lead witness and actual perpetrator is a traitor, but he 100% deserted his legion to pursue a personal vendetta against the Ascians and then started feeding information to the Eorzean Alliance. You'd need to rewrite elements of the story going back years to make Gaius a valid candidate for the throne.

While they could have introduced a Larsa-equivalent, it was a bit late in the game to do that and we'd just be repeating the same story as FFXII all over again. Just because it worked for one game doesn't mean it will work for another or needs to happen again. Regardless, Garlemald is neutered and can't really do anything large scale anymore. The writers left the fates of the remaining legions vague if they want to use them again for something, but we also might be stepping into territory the game has already been before if they have yet another rogue legion like the IVth or the VIIth. Legati and princes vying for the throne ended up destabilizing and destroying the country so it's probably best that they do away with the throne anyway.

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To be fair, though, Maxima's also a deserter and a traitor to some. I imagine he will have some issues as well, but he has a history of always working for the people so that will help him.

To the second point, I imagine a lot of Garleans are at least giving the side eye to a single leader idea the way the Ala Mhigans did to the idea of having another king. Been there, done that, let's try something else shall we.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

There's this wonderful idea of having the writers not kill off the entire royal family

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I'm not even particularly a fan of Garlemald and I'm ticked off they seemingly wiped out the entire line of Solus in EW.

I could get behind any other post-totalitarian country restoring their throne except for Garlemald. To me, restoring that country as an Empire would negate the major themes of FFXIV to date (although, I'm sure certain parties wouldn't mind that).

Garlemald's core principle was that might makes right, and that it likewise makes absolute right. The country's government, civilian sector and military engine were all built from the idea that strength and authority are one in the same, and there would be no way you could personally convince me that Garlemald's "Galvus Chapter" was over if we just killed one dictator and put another one (even if he/she seems nice at the time) on the throne. I could buy it with Eulmore, Ala Mhigo or Ishgard based on the fact that each one of them were basically ruled by one insane or deluded dictator and, once they were removed from power, the country didn't really have to worry anymore. But Garlemald's entire ideology was built on the principle of the mightiest conquering and exploiting the weak. Throughout FFXIV's lifespan, it changed dictator twice. You could have put a panda on the throne and (in my opinion) I wouldn't buy that this was a bright new Garlean Empire. Especially if they suddenly rejected any cooperation with the Alliance out of nationalistic pride and cultural autonomy or something, as has been suggested they "should have".

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Originally Posted by Rulakir

I'm not even particularly a fan of Garlemald and I'm ticked off they seemingly wiped out the entire line of Solus in EW.

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Well you can blame Solus himself for that.
Also Solus (Hades) and and Varis died in ShB (or maybe Varis died at the end of SB, it's been awhile) not EW iirc

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Well you can blame Solus himself for that.
Also Solus (Hades) and and Varis died in ShB (or maybe Varis died at the end of SB, it's been awhile) not EW iirc

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He means the royal family. Which died offscreen just before the WOL can track them down in a sidequest.

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Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus

He means the royal family. Which died offscreen just before the WOL can track them down in a sidequest.

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Yeah, that was honestly kind of lame but I could also see them doing that to remove any potential ambiguity around the regime change since they're keen on ending the Garlean/Ascian/Hydaelyn/Zodiark story in favor of something new.

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Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus

He means the royal family. Which died offscreen just before the WOL can track them down in a sidequest.

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I guess stuff happening offscreen doesn't bother me. Gives a sense of there being a world outside of just us

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I can't. After the Werlyt questline, I think he's got a very good reason to want to be done with all that nonsense.

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And they pay very strong focus on that particular element. Isghard's xenophobia or Ala Mihgo suspicious toward turn-coat is NOTHING comparing to Empire's indoctrination. This was illustrated in the EW's MSQ when the woman risk taking her sick sister escaping to the wild rather than receiving help from the "barbarian". If the Eozea army was shown to have any connection or in a cahot with the supposed-regicide, that will not end well.


I don't know why people are acting as if EW is like the end all for the Empire story. If anything, FF14 is known for to pace out the story over a lonnnnggg time. We just finally put the final seal on Isghard's redevelopment. Doma is almost there but Ala Mihgo is still a WIP. I wouldn't be suprise if the conclusion to the Empire story will only be seen in 3 expansion packs away. There are still a lot of material regarding Garlmean, like Corvos where they were driven off, and Goug which was their ancestral home. The current identity of the Garlmean is an Ascian construct to serve as tool for the end of the world, my guess is the resolution to the Garlmean would be they try to trace back their original identity as a race of people.