Servers are full. Grats JP/GMT players. NA = Screwed.

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Originally Posted by Durian

you mean like now?

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Ragnarok is still ○.

I just selected "Default Transfer" because I really want to go to Balmung. When I manually selected Balmung it was packed, and the entire server table was full.

This just defies logic. I don't have time to sit around and camp a web page to get on the same server as my friends. This needs to be fixed ASAP or the game is going to hemorrhage what remains of the playerbase.

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Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo

This just defies logic. I don't have time to sit around and camp a web page to get on the same server as my friends. This needs to be fixed ASAP or the game is going to hemorrhage what remains of the playerbase.

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Yet the servers are filling up.... I highly doubt hemorrhaging isn't a worry.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

So, It does seem like this was poorly planned out. Ive read a bunch of post and for the most part I get what happened. Even so, right now, it seems like SE was only intending to give people the chance to inhabit Ragnarok....

Also if ALL worlds but ONE are full maybe SE should take note and get some MORE servers... Cuz whats gonna happen when 2.0 goes live and we have active, inactive and NEW players all trying to inhabit servers that are already stressed to max?

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in 2.0 we getting new servers that are not limit by the ones we have now so they can hold way more players and can do things that the current servers can't not like Mail box and more.

You don't have to pick default server if you are staying on your own server, I too was confused at first, but if you are staying, you do nothing, so all those complaining about not getting their default server do not need to worry.

I like how some people say "don't listen to the vocal majority on the forums", you know why servers are packed? Most people chose to stay on there same server, meaning a merge was better for most of the population ( I checked it when it first opened up for giggles). The vocal minority of people who wanted the previous option are now speaking up.

So I'll just be put in Balmung anyway, if I do nothing? Lovely! :D Now I can rest easy.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Yet the servers are filling up.... I highly doubt hemorrhaging isn't a worry.

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Stop being so smug, not everyone has time to sit around and wait for servers to be opened up. This is yet another huge failure on SEs part and of course the apologists are all over it.

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Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo

This just defies logic. I don't have time to sit around and camp a web page to get on the same server as my friends. This needs to be fixed ASAP or the game is going to hemorrhage what remains of the playerbase.

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you do realize you got over 2 weeks to do this and the main reason everythings the way it is now is cuz everyones trying to do it at once?

i think if people would stop acting like it needs to be done NOW NOW NOW and settle down this will pass, and they will get into the server they want with time.

and if they cant join their friends, maybe their friends can join them, or if all were in the same server originaly, maybe they just shouldnt transfer at all

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you do realize you got over 2 weeks to do this and the main reason everythings the way it is now is cuz everyones trying to do it at once?

i think if people would stop acting like it needs to be done NOW NOW NOW and settle down this will pass, and they will get into the server they want with time.

and if they cant join their friends, maybe their friends can join them, or if all were in the same server originaly, maybe they just shouldnt transfer at all

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Sorry but they have been running an MMO for over 10 years, there is no excuse for the way this is being done, it's just the standard poor customer service that we always get and apologizing for a company that you are paying for a service doesn't help. People are upset they can't do it now for two reasons: there has been almost no communication from SE regarding all of the servers being full and; people naturally want assurances that the characters they have been working on for over a year will transfer over to the same server as their friends. These are basic principals that should be lit up in neon lights in the developers heads, yet here we are with another convoluted and poorly executed process that fosters resentment towards the development team.

Yes I realize that in the end I'll probably get on the world that I want but that doesn't compensate for the initial frustration and disappointment and certainly doesn't inspire any sort of confidence that this game will be "fixed" when they finally do start to roll out 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo

Sorry but they have been running an MMO for over 10 years, there is no excuse for the way this is being done, it's just the standard poor customer service that we always get and apologizing for a company that you are paying for a service doesn't help. People are upset they can't do it now for two reasons: there has been almost no communication from SE regarding all of the servers being full and; people naturally want assurances that the characters they have been working on for over a year will transfer over to the same server as their friends. These are basic principals that should be lit up in neon lights in the developers heads, yet here we are with another convoluted and poorly executed process that fosters resentment towards the development team.

Yes I realize that in the end I'll probably get on the world that I want but that doesn't compensate for the initial frustration and disappointment and certainly doesn't inspire any sort of confidence that this game will be "fixed" when they finally do start to roll out 2.0.

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so you are saying they are not allowed to limit how many players on a server so that they all get spread out evenly?

if you have friends in game they are usualy already on your server
if you have friends on other servers, you made them after the fact anyway and most games would require you to pay to transfer to them

add in the fact that most people are whining that they didnt get there on day 1 of 19, thats right, 19 days to transfer, and people are throwing fits that they didnt get in on day 1

the frustration people are feeling at this point is their own fault, the devs exaplined whats going on, that they will be manualy updating the server status throughout the day several times, and yet people still dont understand that and are throwing fits

when it gets closer to the end time of the server transfers, THAT IS WHEN YOU SHOULD WORRY, not the day they opened

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

so you are saying they are not allowed to limit how many players on a server so that they all get spread out evenly?

if you have friends in game they are usualy already on your server
if you have friends on other servers, you made them after the fact anyway and most games would require you to pay to transfer to them

add in the fact that most people are whining that they didnt get there on day 1 of 19, thats right, 19 days to transfer, and people are throwing fits that they didnt get in on day 1

the frustration people are feeling at this point is their own fault, the devs exaplined whats going on, that they will be manualy updating the server status throughout the day several times, and yet people still dont understand that and are throwing fits

when it gets closer to the end time of the server transfers, THAT IS WHEN YOU SHOULD WORRY, not the day they opened

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Again not everyone has time to simply sit around camping a webpage and again regardless of how many times you try to say otherwise this process is poorly thought out and unnecessarily frustrating. That's not good for business any way you cut it, and SE is a business that already has lost customer confidence. If they can't handle a task that is relatively small compared to v2.0 it really makes you wonder if they've learned anything over the past year or are just forcing another beta down our throats.

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Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo

Again not everyone has time to simply sit around camping a webpage and again regardless of how many times you try to say otherwise this process is poorly thought out and unnecessarily frustrating. That's not good for business any way you cut it, and SE is a business that already has lost customer confidence. If they can't handle a task that is relatively small compared to v2.0 it really makes you wonder if they've learned anything over the past year or are just forcing another beta down our throats.

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you DO NOT have to camp the website

people are only doing it right now cuz they feel they have to to get where they want to go, give it some time and youll be able to just check it, see your sever open, and go to it.

as i said before, this is now day 2, so many people still want to transfer around that its overloading the requests and making it how it is now where everything shows full til they update it, give it time, and thatl taper off as people get their requests in.


every person who gets a transfer in is 1 less thatl be doing it over the next few days, and that number will eventualy zero out

It's so cute cause you all would have had your choices if you hadn't flamed the original merge plans. See sometimes were not all right ;P

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Originally Posted by Kyri

It's so cute cause you all would have had your choices if you hadn't flamed the original merge plans. See sometimes were not all right ;P

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i still say this method is vastly superior to the original plan. this way you have a small group of people trying to move away from their servers to another for whatever reason getting stuck. the other way you would have had multiple servers getting split right down the middle and not being able to move together.

i'll take the method we have now any day and twice on sundays over the original method.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

NA players are gonna be pissed when they wake up in the morning.

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Edit: to be clear, I am on the default server I was assigned to, I just feel bad for people who aren't and couldn't wake up in the AM to select the server of their choice before JP and GMT players filled them.

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Lets hope they open them back up to more players so people can move.


Double Edit: Seems spots are opening slowly.

Refresh the page often and keep trying!

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Wow im making this because wow..
"Double Edit: Seems spots are opening slowly.

Refresh the page often and keep trying!"

this is kinda BS good thing i dont have to do anything since im going to my default server but this really sucks.

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Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo

Sorry but they have been running an MMO for over 10 years, there is no excuse for the way this is being done, it's just the standard poor customer service that we always get and apologizing for a company that you are paying for a service doesn't help. People are upset they can't do it now for two reasons: there has been almost no communication from SE regarding all of the servers being full and; people naturally want assurances that the characters they have been working on for over a year will transfer over to the same server as their friends. These are basic principals that should be lit up in neon lights in the developers heads, yet here we are with another convoluted and poorly executed process that fosters resentment towards the development team.

Yes I realize that in the end I'll probably get on the world that I want but that doesn't compensate for the initial frustration and disappointment and certainly doesn't inspire any sort of confidence that this game will be "fixed" when they finally do start to roll out 2.0.

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You my friend have earned a one way ticket to Ragnarok, congratulations.

Who agrees all complainers should be forced onto Ragnarok, they seemed to like the idea of getting a random server before, cept this will not be random, all complainers must go to Ragnarok.

OK. Let me get this straight. ALL servers are full & they don't even accept applications for transfer. Server capacity = exact amount of players? It would seem to me that Squeenix needs to hire somebody that can do math.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

You my friend have earned a one way ticket to Ragnarok, congratulations.

Who agrees all complainers should be forced onto Ragnarok, they seemed to like the idea of getting a random server before, cept this will not be random, all complainers must go to Ragnarok.

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Yes, lets put all the complainers on Ragnarok. That way you guys can choose any server you like. Oh, wait... you can't transfer either!

But hey, we shouldn't complain about it. We should let Square-Enix spoon-feed us a broken pile of shit, and then be happy with it. Lets even pay to play a game that is nothing more than a horrible mistake so far. But we should definitely make fun of anyone who raises an opinion that might offer even just a slight hint of possibly constructive criticism.

You sir, and every other fanboy on these boards like you are nothing more than a parasite. A cancer that is holding back the truth, which is that this game is fundamentally flawed (broken?) on nearly every level.

Imo, they should take all of your kind to Ragnarok, leave that server with the current state of the game, and never give it any updates. That way we can watch you all praise a shitty game. I would enjoy that.

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Originally Posted by Omidar

OK. Let me get this straight. ALL servers are full & they don't even accept applications for transfer. Server capacity = exact amount of players? It would seem to me that Squeenix needs to hire somebody that can do math.

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wrong

whats happening is the system is ONLY updating who is tranfering onto servers but not off of servers
someone is going in and manualy updating the system to reflect whos left the servers

and they are updating it several times a day(its the weekend now so it may not be updating cuz of that)

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Originally Posted by ThePatriarch

Yes, lets put all the complainers on Ragnarok. That way you guys can choose any server you like. Oh, wait... you can't transfer either!

But hey, we shouldn't complain about it. We should let Square-Enix spoon-feed us a broken pile of shit, and then be happy with it. Lets even pay to play a game that is nothing more than a horrible mistake so far. But we should definitely make fun of anyone who raises an opinion that might offer even just a slight hint of possibly constructive criticism.

You sir, and every other fanboy on these boards like you are nothing more than a parasite. A cancer that is holding back the truth, which is that this game is fundamentally flawed (broken?) on nearly every level.

Imo, they should take all of your kind to Ragnarok, leave that server with the current state of the game, and never give it any updates. That way we can watch you all praise a shitty game. I would enjoy that.

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trololololol.

All I have been saying is that SE GAVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR, you just complain for the sake of complaining, if you had it your way we would never merge because you would complain at everything SE offered.

And btw I arent planning on moving, you are against this merge so you must have been for the previous method therefore you wouldnt mind being put on a random server, I didnt mind that the previous method because I was going to go with my LS anyway.

Having said that given the choice I would choose this method over the previous one, SE give us choices, we choose and everyone complains, all this complaining at everything SE does (even if its what people wanted) will make SE say f.u. you dont know what you want so we will tell you what you are getting. Perhaps I am a fanboy, but I have had complained at thing I didn't like before now, you see me defend one decicion and i'm a fanboy/white knight/butt kisser/whatever else you wanna say.

If you say you did prefer the previous merge method then you should have spoken up about it, which I know you didn't because I have just checked all your posts, infact all your posts are saying "this sucks, that sucks, RRRRRRAAAAAAAGGGGEEEEE!!!!" so yeah according you everything is crap but you still pay to troll the forums because obviously everything is that crap you can't be enjoying the game enough to play.

The Vedis you dont have 2 weeks, you have until 12th because if your server that your on now is full your selection is final, which atm all are full so if things stay the way they are now, everyone is locked in on 12th.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I am about to post several paragraphs of nonsense. Please spare yourself. I fucking love Final Fantasy XIV, i wish SE would insert the game into my ractal cavity I love it so much. Fuck me I love it. So much.

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I like it too, bro. Just not that much.

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Originally Posted by ThePatriarch

I like it too, bro. Just not that much.

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See what I mean, I agree with one thing and I want SE to ass rape me, I get you hate SE, you dont need to tell me again.

Look up what people were saying when the merge was first announced, you will know you are talking shit.

Well you would think they would have open slots if they worried about the people that have actually already paid for a few months, and worry less about the millions of accounts connected to people that don't even play the game anymore. Active paying customers should come first, is the point. Right now some of the people that wanted to switch servers, have, but still there are quite a few that can not even get to that point. I know they say to refresh Lodestone periodically for slots to become available, but honestly it should be paying people first, then the rest as follows.

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Originally Posted by KadeDoom

Well you would think they would have open slots if they worried about the people that have actually already paid for a few months, and worry less about the millions of accounts connected to people that don't even play the game anymore. Active paying customers should come first, is the point. Right now some of the people that wanted to switch servers, have, but still there are quite a few that can not even get to that point. I know they say to refresh Lodestone periodically for slots to become available, but honestly it should be paying people first, then the rest as follows.

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maybe you should read up on the matter. the inactive players do not affect how many people can get into the server according to yoshi. he said, yes, they are counted on the numbers, but they are not counted in as members towards how full your server is and whether or not people can transfer to it. if they did i'd imagine that every single active member could have fit on a single server and went from 18 down to 1.

i figure they are manually updating the numbers instead of automatically doing them due to they have to look at how many active people are on the server and not how many each server has total.

edit: if they don't count towards if your server is full or not, like yoshi stated, then how are the paying customers not given priority?

Manually? Seriously? They can write FFXIV but can't program the appropriate cross-server queries to automate the process?

if they didn't then there should be tons of open slots on every world. i just did a player search on Kashuan, and at this current time there is 317 players online 1-50 all areas, so take that on an average per server for NA time zones, total is 5706 current active players, for 18 servers, now your trying to tell me that if everyone online right now ave number of 5700 people tried to merge to 1 new world, there aren't enough slots open to accommodate that many players? How many slots are the new worlds holding is what needs to be addressed. If you go to ff14pro and search total players per server there is about 15,000+ accounts, so 2 worlds merged active or inactive would be 30k + accounts, into 1 new world. so saying inactive accounts aren't be calculated can not be true, because with active paying accounts, would probably be around 85% of the total accounts per server, and that is being generous since you know there is less then that actually still playing the game.

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Originally Posted by Omidar

They can write FFXIV but can't program the appropriate cross-server queries to automate the process?

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FFXIV isn't the best example to use...

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Originally Posted by KadeDoom

if they didn't then there should be tons of open slots on every world. i just did a player search on Kashuan, and at this current time there is 317 players online 1-50 all areas, so take that on an average per server for NA time zones, total is 5706 current active players, for 18 servers, now your trying to tell me that if everyone online right now ave number of 5700 people tried to merge to 1 new world, there aren't enough slots open to accommodate that many players? How many slots are the new worlds holding is what needs to be addressed. If you go to ff14pro and search total players per server there is about 15,000+ accounts, so 2 worlds merged active or inactive would be 30k + accounts, into 1 new world. so saying inactive accounts aren't be calculated can not be true, because with active paying accounts, would probably be around 85% of the total accounts per server, and that is being generous since you know there is less then that actually still playing the game.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

In response to a player asking whether active players already on a World take priority over players who requested a World Transfer to the World:

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"Yes, that’s correct. Naturally player characters that were in that World originally will get first priority.

Inactive characters/non-subscribers are also counted, but they are not factored into the maximum limit of active characters allocated to each server. It’s hard to explain, but if you want to keep your character on the World you are currently on, then you don’t need to do anything (if there happens to be duplicate character names, we will ask you to make changes however). You needn’t worry as you are not going to get kicked out from the World automatically or be forced to move."


like i have stated before if anyone has seen anything that states this is no longer the case i'd be interested to see it. the quote above was bayone's translations of a yoshi post and he states incatives are not counted towards if the server is full or not.

edit: your numbers are also trying to say that those 317 players are the only active players that ever sign into that server. that is not the case at all. you may have 317 now, 500 later, and 1000 at a different time and zero of those numbers will be your total active population. total active population counts everyone that is paying for the game including the ones that only sign in once every few weeks. i only see a few 2-300 on karnak, but i know we have well over 1k actives because that few hundred is only the people that are on with us, but the jp playerbase is closer to 600 daily.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Yet the servers are filling up.... I highly doubt hemorrhaging isn't a worry.

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They were already full appearntly before this shit ever went live, so thats a moot point your making.

If your LS is split now, you should choose to go to Ragnarok because it garuntee's you will all make it to there.

Btw the people that complained about Option 4 aren't really the people complaining now; they wanted to stay on their server anyways so they are sticking with "Default". The people complaining now are the people that sat back and didn't voice it either way. I agree Option 4 was better than Option 2 but it honestly didn't make a difference to me so I never really said much about it. We are just staying as "Default" server so it doesn't matter...

I think Option 2 is more for solo players trying to move around servers rather than entire LS's (unless they want to go to Ragnarok).

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

If your LS is split now, you should choose to go to Ragnarok because it garuntee's you will all make it to there.

Btw the people that complained about Option 4 aren't really the people complaining now; they wanted to stay on their server anyways so they are sticking with "Default". The people complaining now are the people that sat back and didn't voice it either way. I agree Option 4 was better than Option 2 but it honestly didn't make a difference to me so I never really said much about it. We are just staying as "Default" server so it doesn't matter...

I think Option 2 is more for solo players trying to move around servers rather than entire LS's (unless they want to go to Ragnarok).

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i have to disagree here. option 2 is more for people that wanted a merge with more people to play with in general and keep their servers in tact. i am much much happier with the option we are using now. at least this way you have a few ls's that wanted to leave their community getting stuck. the other way you would have had complete servers split into pieces.

-rage, +fun

Maybe I'm missing something here but isn't your character automatically placed in their defualt merged world? If that's the case then what's the point of choosing a world in the first place. Undo stress is what they are creating with this Merge...

Yeah, I'm doing the default thing. But some others probably want to go to another server other than their default one, which is causing them stress. All of my friends are agreeing to go right to Balmung, and we don't have to worry; however, many others probably want to go to a different server other than their default one.

Wow im not transferring but this kinda blows i have yet to see a server open besides Ragnarok... nice job SE >_>

So it's day 4 of me camping this server merge. I have two other friends that want to play together that are camping it also. If this is a sign of things to come then {No Thanks} to v2.0.

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Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo

So it's day 4 of me camping this server merge. I have two other friends that want to play together that are camping it also. If this is a sign of things to come then {No Thanks} to v2.0.

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i dont know about anyone else noticing, but something tells me they arent updating it during the weekend
so camping it anytime from now til late night tonight/tomorow is pointless

And they said when they plan to manually update the page, so 24 hour camping isn't gonna help.