I 100% think that RDM is going to get some sort of ability with the name Refresh as a ref to XI, whether or not it operates the same. As for damage abilities, RDM is designed so perfectly that adding anything to its single target feels like it'll disrupt the almost choreographed flow of the job. Maybe a third finisher ability that's aligned with neither black/white magic for when you finish your melee combo with a balanced amount of mana that could proc Impact or something
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05-06-2019, 10:07 AMwaifugenerator
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05-06-2019, 11:06 AMArchwizardSince Ranged already have Refresh I would be surprised, not to mention we lost Death Blossom out to Rogues and got Chant du Cygne renamed to "Zwerchau". If I recall correctly RDMs in XI were strong debuffers, while they don't even have DoTs in XIV; safe to say the design is going to be a bit different between the two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by waifugenerator
There are other options to recover MP though, I believe someone mentioned Aspir/Osmotic Slash earlier in the thread.
I don't think that perspective on single-target is true at all - as long as we maintain the pairing of "shortcast -> Dualcast longcast" and net-gain Mana, it's nigh impossible to "disrupt the flow," and anything longer than 2 seconds to cast will automatically be shuffled into our longcasts anyway. Ironically the only way to really disrupt it would be an instant GCD, and even then we have space for a Scathe or a Ruin II in mobile encounters.
It would easy enough to add, say, a proc that replaces the next Veraero/Verthunder in the rotation (just like Verfire/Verstone already do to Jolt/Impact), or a DoT that replaces a Jolt/Impact to refresh. Same flow, but with extra buttons or different timers.
(Yes, I know, I keep saying DoT. It's my go-to example for design expansion, not a claim of 'necessity.')
As I previously explained, I think it would be more disruptive to add a third Verfinisher; right now the choice is a simple binary. Adding a third option under the current circumstances would most likely just create button bloat, either leading to Verholy/Verflare being pushed to the side completely in favor of capping your MP to cast the superior option, or be completely ignored in favor of them outside niche scenarios -- and with a condition of only "balanced mana", I find the latter more likely since Impact is already easier to proc than Verstone/Verfire, with a lower Mana gain than either.
Some earlier in the thread have suggested a third Verfinisher that only becomes available after having cast both of the others, but presently it takes 40 seconds to build up to each Verfinisher without Manafication, and having to do so two or three times under current circumstances would lead to a build-up just shy of SMN's for Demi-Bahamut, which nobody really wants. For a more reasonable buildup to such an ability (say, 1 minute), we would either need a faster Manafication CD, a substantial (~50%) increase to our base Mana generation, a substantial (~25-30%) reduction to our Enchanted combo cost, some happy medium between the two, or a means to proc Verfinishers outside of a melee combo. -
05-07-2019, 05:10 AMJonnycbad
I think MP issues would be obviated if they nerf Verraise to make it on its own recast timer with a 30 or 60s recast (same for SMN). Most of our MP woes comes from coming back from Weakness or spamming raises. DPS can only get TP back with cross-role skills Tactician/Invigorate, so I think it would be fine if RDM could only get it back from Lucid Dreaming. Our spells are far cheaper to cast than other DPS casters.
SMN can regain 10% MP with Aetherflow, but SMN MP costs are actually a bit higher:
3 GCDs every 30-40 seconds cost on RDM cost 0 MP, as well.
That said, they could definitely tweak RDM's MP costs to be even cheaper or give us a 5-7% MP boost when we use Acceleration, or give us HP/MP drain when we do our Enhanced melee combo. -
05-07-2019, 05:24 PMMansionMmmh not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
If you play uptime RDM, with no raise and no lucid dreaming, you will run out of MP around 4-5 minutes in the fight.
SMN uses Ruin 3 most of the time (240 PM), can refresh DoTs once out of two times thanks to an oGCD ability (free mana cost), and sometimes SMN use Ruin II (480 PM) for mobility outside of DWT and Bahamut (that's not considering Ruin 4 procs that is 240 PM, and instant). And they get 10% MP recovery every minute. Sure their MP pool is a bit reduced compared to RDM, but you virtually cannot run out of MP on SMN as long as you don't die. Plus you can access Lucid Dreaming if things go really bad.
RDM is ONLY using spells that cost 360 MP, 480 MP for each dualcast and 600 MP after each melee combo, with no mana recovery part of their rotation. They can be expected to Mana shift and Raise. So yeah, they need something in their kit to fix the MP costs (either through a regen or a Thin Air like ability). -
05-07-2019, 10:10 PMArchwizard... and we can be assured that in the current circumstances, a Thin Air-like ability would be primarily saved for Verraising, since that's the fastest drain on RDM's MP if we can LD the main rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansion
So, either we use the compromise of gaining a cost-reduction CD for our primary rotation (which would most likely be used right before the Verfinisher if it lasts into the main combo) while also removing the MP cost from Verraise outright and putting it on a cooldown like Jonny said -- bearing in mind our costs are already a fraction of what other casters have and it seems part of the intent of the melee combo is to give us scant seconds to recover MP (... before our biggest cost) -- or we advocate some form of direct MP recovery purely to sustain the rotation, allowing us to save Lucid Dreaming for emergencies such as Verraise spam or death recovery.
I find the latter solution both simpler and more elegant. Besides, Mana Shift's recovery is based on the MP consumed, so a cost-reduction skill would either have no benefit or weaken the skill.
Given the rough example number of 4-5 minutes without Lucid Dreaming or downtime, we expend about 20-25% of our MP per minute of combat assuming 1) we don't Mana Shift or Verraise and 2) our average MP expenditure doesn't jump up in Shadowbringers.
Now on the one-hand, we could aim to break even during the course of our rotation. Napkin math says this could mean increasing our base Refresh rate by about 1-1.25% of our max MP every tick, or (assuming 40 seconds to the melee combo with an extra combo every other Manafication, coming out to 7 combos every 4 minutes or 1.75 combos/min) about 11.5-14.3% of our MP every melee combo -- bearing in mind that while SMN gets 10% back per minute with Aetherflow, they also can choose to sacrifice DPS in a pinch using Energy Drain to recover an additional ~9% per cast.
On the other hand, we don't necessarily need to break even, we just need to reasonably last through the encounter. At half those numbers, we theoretically double our uptime without LD, and at two-thirds the sample we triple that uptime -- and that's all assuming the fight has no downtime of its own for base MP recovery, which virtually no encounter longer than 5 minutes is lacking in. -
05-07-2019, 11:45 PMMansionYes, I'm assuming we are keeping Lucid Dreaming too, so we can either pair it up with a "Thin Air", or have those two options when things go bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
I'm more keen to have a MP recovery within the RDM kit and not necessarily in the rotation (my original suggestion was our unenchanted melee combo), based on the fact that we would keep Lucid Dreaming. They could do as you suggest and implement it within the rotation too.
Every way could work really, either have it as another CD that you can use onfly for MP refresh (as Lucid Dreaming's agro drop can save lives sometimes), have more MP, have less MP-expensive spells... just anything that gives us MP back on top of Lucid. :) -
05-08-2019, 08:39 AMArchwizardWhich is why I've lately been favoring an MP recovery that is based on the damage of our melee skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansion
Having MP recovery based purely on our unenchanted melee gives us MP on demand but encourages bad play, not to mention there are times when we are locked out of the unenchanted melee.
Having MP recovery based purely on our Enchanted melee gives us the ability to upkeep our rotation and guarantees it won't be a consumer in ShB, but requires a massive MP investment before we can go about recovery (which is inconvenient in Verraising/MShifting and impossible after reviving).
Having it based on both however, with a higher value on our Enchanted melee, gives us the best of both worlds -- the ability to recover a sliver on-demand just to get started, while still encouraging our Enchanted melee combo for primary upkeep. A full Enchanted combo has a potency of 970 (before Verfinisher, which has an MP cost itself), while an unenchanted combo is 510; giving about 1.18-1.47% MP per 100 potency would allow the main combo to break even over the course of a fight, and our unenchanted combo to give 6-7.5% MP per use for when LD isn't available.
Even making it so the unenchanted combo recovers 4-5% MP per use would allow the main combo to sustain us through a standard boss duration assuming we live the whole time and don't need to Verraise or MShift, and give us enough MP to kickstart our rotation instead of waiting around for 20 sec after reviving. And in such small numbers, we still maintain penalties to Verraise spam since we would have to hit the combo 3-4 times before we can cast from 0, while still being relatively comparable to SMN in terms of recovery. (And if that's too much, they can always put a short CD on our melee skills, which I half-expect to happen anyway with the removal of TP.)
All these numbers assume that our ShB rotation doesn't accelerate the rate of our melee, of course, which I find unlikely but possibly evened out by increased MP expenditure anyway.
I personally favor saving LD for emergencies since as you said, the aggro drop can be equally as important as the MP gain. (Granting, I would also much rather have the enmity drop be folded into Diversion...) -
05-08-2019, 11:01 PMJollyy5
As someone who would like to see more melee options for RDM, maybe some sort of a melee oGCD that drains MP from the enemy? Unless someone has already suggested it, in which case nevermind.
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05-09-2019, 12:37 AMJonnycbad
The MP drain should be on Enhanced spellbade GCDs as it would recover MP based on good RDM play as opposed to spamming an ineffective skill to get back MP. Every other job that uses MP has a skill as part of a rotation or a free oGCD to gain their MP back PLD gets it back during their DPS and DoT combo for example. It would likely be a fixed amount, and perhaps only on the final hit (Enhanced Redoublement) since RDM doesn't really have MP issues before Verraise/Vercure. Acceleration could also be used as a small MP gain, given its name, it implies it accelerates the RDM's mana stores. So naturally it would make sense to give it like a 5% MP restore or something (it can be used more often than Aetherflow)
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05-09-2019, 12:46 AMKurando
If we really need an action for MP recovery, I would propose bringing Celes' Runic (FF6) ability in to RDM's arsenal. Of course we would need to adapt it better to FFXIV, so perhaps it can be a oGCD that every 2-3mins that lasts for about 20secs and it returns a portion of the damage dealt back as MP. It could be a buff that effects RDM only, or it could potentially be a party wide utility, so Bloodbath for everyone... except it's MP instead of HP!
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05-09-2019, 01:08 AMKabooaOnly thing here is I'm pretty sure Runic's gonna go to the Gunbreaker or Dark Knight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
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05-09-2019, 01:20 AMKurandoI'm hoping that's not the case, I feel Runic fits RDM more than a tank but I suppose anything is possible. I would see Gunbreaker having more FF8 influenced names, Draw (well that's taken so would need a rename), Stock, Mad Rush etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabooa
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05-09-2019, 01:50 AMSeraphorIf it reacts to getting hit, itll be a tank skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
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05-09-2019, 02:09 AMKurandoWell it's not going to function exactly like Runic anyway as it would be OP as hell otherwise, considering it was able to absorb any magic spell towards the user or the party and give the user MP recovery equivalent to how much the spell cost. I mean Darkside doesn't function the same as it did in previous FF titles so I'm sure Runic is open to be tweaked as necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
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05-09-2019, 03:51 AMSieyaM
My wish list isnt long or involved, just some kind of chainspell instead of just dual casting. I'm no theorycrafter or anything but I would love to be able to chain 3 or 4 spells with a great finisher as a RDM.
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05-09-2019, 04:42 AMKabooaSo why not just name it something else and let Runic be one of the overpowered tank cooldowns?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
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05-09-2019, 05:53 AMLaurontIf anything it'll probably end up as some absorption ability restoring MP on one of the current tanks - DRK being a good candidate given its own mechanics which would already accommodate it; although possibly PLD for that very reason. Something like an Osmose Slash would be more in tune with RDM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
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05-09-2019, 10:14 AMArchwizardNot entirely true, actually. While SMN has Aetherflow, they also can choose to trade potency to cast Energy Drain for additional MP, especially since they, like us, can Raise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
Which is why my proposal is for us to get a sustainable amount of MP back from the Enchanted combo, but a smaller on-demand amount from our un-enhanced melee, for periods when we spend a lot of MP (Verraise, Vercure, Mana Shift -- basically all of our group utility, which we're expected to use as the tradeoff for our lower damage) or shortly after reviving, and Lucid Dreaming is unavailable or needs to be saved.
Acceleration could also be used, I suppose, but doesn't have the same on-demand ability.
While we could separately use a barrier skill, part of the point of the exercise is that we have limited ability to recover MP as often as we need it. Attaching it to yet another lengthy CD is counterproductive to this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
Doesn't our melee already kinda fulfill that fantasy? Or do you mean like... Triplecast but for RDMs?Quote:
Originally Posted by SieyaM
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05-09-2019, 04:02 PMShurrikhanQuote:
Originally Posted by SieyaM
I'm similarly curious. I was imagining an ability that briefly deactivates Dualcast, causing each sequential spell (up to a particular maximum, e.g. 3) to increase your Attack Speed for the next GCD and deal increased damage based on the spells cast before it? So, spell-combos? Idk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
Mate, the Triplecast-equivalent was your idea. I specifically went in a different, mutually-exclusive direction...Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
If paired with a utility skill that shields, shells, mantles, etc., some ally, you could possibly apply it through there, allowing it to function like a more meaningful (in that it can be used externally), but far less frequent, anti-magic Third Eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
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05-09-2019, 04:28 PMKurandoHaving a lengthy cooldown is no different to ranged using Refresh on the group every 3mins (or whatever it is). RDM just having a second way to recover MP (outside of Lucid) is far from counterproductive as depending on the amount it restores or how the action is rewarded, it could very well give the job the respite it may require. AST is another job that can suffer with MP issues after being revived if Lucid is unavailable and RNG isn't bringing a Ewer, so the problem is not exclusive to RDM. Other jobs may also get more actions or ones with a stronger effect (e.g. buffed Mana Shift) to assist allies with recovery, building more on the party concept as opposed to self sufficiency. Moving forward though, RDM may not get any additional MP recovery action at all and at that point you'd just have to suck it up and make do as it is for another full expansion. We will just have to wait until the live letter and see what is revealed though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
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05-09-2019, 10:07 PMArchwizardThere wouldn't be a need to deactivate Dualcast, it already won't proc off of instant spells such as Swiftcast spells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
Allow me to rephrase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
We already have our MP recovery tied entirely to a CD, and we're feeling the limitations of that due to the intermittent nature of our utilities. My concern is half that a skill such as what you proposed would not only have limited availability during the periods where we would need to recover MP, but would also have inconsistent effectiveness if used at any point outside of our major burst period (ie the melee combo) -- which means at best we're facing exactly the same difficulties as I mentioned with tying our MP recovery purely to our Enchanted melee (but with a cooldown so it doesn't affect every melee), and at worst can only use it for upkeep within the rotation due to needing to spend MP to deal damage to recover MP, which basically is an extra step to a form of upkeep that should be included in the base rotation. -
05-10-2019, 01:06 PMArchwizard
With regards to utility, something I've been thinking about lately: What if Vercure increased the target's vulnerability to healing effects for a brief period? Say, 10-20% extra healing for 5-10 sec.
That way we're not necessarily stepping on healer's toes and may even be encouraged to use it after a tankbuster, and get the fringe benefits from using it on ourselves after big hits.
Alternately, just add a trait (like "Vermedica") that lets it affect allies within 6 yalms of the target, a la Cure III.
While I'm aware that it's not the ideal for a damage class to have utilities that contribute to group survivability (as opposed to damage), it does seem like the best way to fold in our White Magic heritage and extends from our notorious raise ability, especially since SMN already substantially increases group damage and BLM has a better claim to further damage buffs. -
05-10-2019, 10:22 PMJollyy5
Vercure is already a pretty potent healing spell, if it could AoE heal, I would not be surprised if we started seeing raid groups with only one healer since healing requirements in this game are so low that a single well geared healer can take care of it all if everyone in the group knows what they are doing.
Sure, it would hurt the RDM's DPS, but in the long run it would increase rDPS due to a Vercuring RDM still having much higher DPS than a healer. -
05-11-2019, 07:53 AMArchwizard
I don't think that's true at all. RDM has no HoTs, no barriers, no oGCD heals or "oh shit" buttons even for itself, and Vercure is the single most expensive quick cast in the kit. RDM can't keep up with tankbusters, and with only 6y splash it wouldn't even keep up with raid healing outside topping people off for stack mechanics.
Saying we could take over for healing just because we'd have a splash-heal would be like saying BLM could take over for tanking 'cuz it has Manaward.
The group would get much better mileage out of using RDM as a DPS, but occasionally deploying spare heals to enhance healers, the same way NIN enhances tanks. -
05-13-2019, 09:05 PMMansionMay I remind you an AST can solo heal the Weapon's Refrain?Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
You get the idea, it would not be Meta, but a support DPS that can AoE heal in between one single healers oGCD would sure be handy in some fights.
And as previously said, I'm not sure that in a team with two healers, a RDM AoE heal would happen anyway. In an emergency situation perhaps, but that should not be the basis of support. See how Red Mages currently struggle outside of prog. Healing and raising is a thing, support should be another.
I'm of the "let healing to healers", that's something they manage very well. But I'd like every DPS having access to a Manawall, Second Wind, Blood Bath or else, that would be their "oh shit" button, and healers take over then. -
05-13-2019, 10:04 PMShurrikhanIf the only point at which a party wholly needs a second healer is for infrequent, scheduled periods of damage each no less than two GCDs apart... I don't see why you wouldn't trim the 2nd healer for a RDM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
And, if RDM could AoE heal, those situations would actually be pretty plentiful. We're not replacing the main healer, after all, and of the two healer's Abilities and Spells each, it's rare than more than 2 categories (MH-Abil, MH-Spells, OH-Abil, OH-Spells) are ever necessary to top a tank (back) off to survivable HP before or after a tankbuster. RDM + solo healer would already allow you, essentially, three of those categories. It's mostly burst AoE that would ever demand both healers' full action, and once RDM can precast+instant AoE for better than a Cure III... -
05-14-2019, 03:44 PMArchwizardQuote:
Originally Posted by Mansion
Fair 'nuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
That still leaves the option to give Vercure splash heals that suffer reduced potency, or have the target gain increased healing from all sources. Main point being that if some are going to argue for an oGCD "Vermedica" without getting the same line about "leaving healing to healers", then the least that could be done is making our existing heal effect situationally useful to the group instead given the hybridized nature of the classic Red Mage.
Idk. Agreed that we should have a real "oh shit" button though; Vercure is decent for self-sustain but only when we have the time and MP to cast it. -
05-14-2019, 04:47 PMMansionI think you're just putting a bit too much meaning in VerCure. Just take it as it is : a free Dual Cast when no target is available, a sustain for solo content and possibly an emergency button. That's already pretty strong in my opinion :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Archwizard
Now having oGCDs with a healing effect, yeah why not if it does not eat on our DPS. But remember it's quite frequent that two healers already kind of step on each other's feet (a healer topping up a party while there is an earthly star or a regen, a single target heal on a tank that has an Excog etc.), and now we would be adding some kind of VerMedica that comes out of the blue. I think it's likely to be more painful to use it properly than a plain "healing received up" or "damage received down" buff.
Once again, "let the healing to healers" ; they have way more tools to do it efficiently, quickly, in their DPS "rotation", sometimes with benefit to their own job gauges.
For the benefit of the discussion, I don't think there is more to classic RDM in FFXIV than using both Black and White Magic. The rest is now FFXIV exclusive, and it works just fine that way. I don't want to bring in the "Godwin" point of FFXIV but look at Blue Mage, it's so classic-BLU that it made it virtually unplayable.
There are other ways to make RDM more support-oriented if it is the direction you want to go (and I'd be happy with a weaker overall pDPS RDM but strong support outside of prog runs) :) -
05-20-2019, 11:16 PMSathona
Vermilion Ultima!
no?
OK :( -
05-20-2019, 11:34 PMADVSSI think a finisher with an aoe burst, may be all i can think of whether it be verholy becomes an aoe, or verflare, or a new verultima, to fill that gap. its not that rdm is lacking much in utility to me at all, but yeah the mp burden is there when you play a dps that tries to healer. I dont want any nerfs to vercure or veraise, its fine, But maybe an aoe option for that 2 pronged finisher would be great for bursting adds. I get that the black/white gimmick is applied to make virtually the same move :different" but its still the same move to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Sathona
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05-21-2019, 12:49 AMJonnycbad
I'd rather not see RDM have a spell named "Verultima". Function wise, it's fine--an AoE Finisher, but call it something unique. Ardor for example? Or it could be that thang that Alisae does in 3.2, a big white circular energy slash, Chant du Cygne (since the name hasn't been used for Zwerchau).
How about a "Meditate" channeled oGCD stance for RDM called "Temper" (like the spell in FF1 that RDM could cast, and their unique spell in FFXI). While channeling it, your Black and White Mana increase by 3/3 every tick for 10 seconds. Something to do during downtime like Meditate/Meditation. -
05-21-2019, 12:51 AMADVSSIll take it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
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05-21-2019, 12:59 AMJonnycbad
On one hand I want them to remove the potency off of our Corps-a-corps and Displacement to discourage being forced to use it (and subsequently falling off shit), but Displacement has a visible energy slash animation attached to it. They'd have to give it some other effect other than a backstep unless they changed the animation completely and make it a Bind or something...which would be dumb. Or maybe an enmity cut? IDK
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05-21-2019, 01:05 AMKaliseThey could simply give Displacement/Corps-a-Corps any of a number of minor debuffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
Heavy? Bind? Slow? Silence? Stun? Blind? Pacification?
Since, irregardless of which one(s) they use, against literally any meaningful target it'll just be "Fully Resisted"
Just as long as they don't put a Stun on Corps-a-Corps because it's bad enough trying to deal with Dragoons and Monks fudging up the ability to interrupt certain annoying enemies without Red Mages also doing the same whenever they want to melee combo >.> -
05-21-2019, 01:06 AMADVSSagree with displacement, but youre right about the animation, it does help the burst combo though, which im guessing was the design. I still would keep displacement, potency or not, it does have its uses in things like 24 mans, etc. Titan? no way will i use it in fights like that unless by accident lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
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05-21-2019, 01:11 AMJonnycbadSorry comrade, not to be a grammar nazi but that is not a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalise
You can use:
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-Irrespective
But irregardless is a double negative lol.
Carry on :-) -
05-21-2019, 01:17 AMKaliseIrregardless is a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
It is merely redundant since "Irregardless" and "Regardless" mean exactly the same thing. As the "Ir" at the beginning merely duplicates the "Less" from the end. Essentially saying the same thing twice.
Only one triggers people ;) -
05-21-2019, 01:21 AMADVSS
Vergardless of the situation, there isnt really too much id change about rdm besides those couple of things
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05-21-2019, 01:50 AMArchwizardA name I have suggested for use for the RDM before:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
Final Verdict.
geddit 'cuz ver-
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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
I agree with Kalise, up until "don't put a stun on Corps-a-Corps". At that point you may as well just say "Don't ever give RDM a stun" since they would be just as culpable as the Dragoons and Monks in any failure to interrupt, and you'd have exactly the same issues from putting a stun on Displacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalise
At least with Corps-a-corps having it, it's an option to the caster to be able to stun from nearly anywhere, and since it's a gap-closer you could always just stand closer to the boss' hitbox if you plan to save it.
Besides, a stun is a rather potent defense in the cases where it is usable, and the RDM is at their most vulnerable when they charge into the fray. As a hybrid melee job, I would argue for our access to that at least, even if folded into another skill.
As for what debuffs precisely though, I don't recommend any that are broken by damage, at least in PvE. I'm a fan of giving Displacement a strong Heavy in addition to reducing the backstep distance and increasing its cast range by the same amount, so that you can both create the same effective distance between yourself and your target (I do love me some kiting) while reducing the risk of endangering yourself if you do use it.
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05-21-2019, 01:57 AMKabooaUnderrated comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ADVSS