Open world PvP Zone

Would love it, and return to old skill system (everything available) while you're at it!

Kisagami, This is an MMORPG. PvP is very common in MMORPG's as they have multiple things for multiple different kind of players. PvP is something that is very under appreciated among the FFXIV's community mainly because the Dev's do not take the time to make it something enjoyable.
I agree with OG here, Open World PVP maps need to be added to this game. "Don't want to pvp? Don't go into the zone...that simple." Long as the PvP zone doesn't gate people from the MSQ its not hurting you at all so I don't see why you care?
And yes OG there are a lot of PvPers in this game that want more PvP content. Most of us are just very quiet, and play frontlines or feast keeping to ourselves. Theres Plenty of PvP fanatics in this game. And its not right to favor 1 type of player over another. There should be something for everyone. Me and my massive fc would love a open world pvp area to meet up in and organize massive scale combat with each other or other fc's and it can be something very nice among the PvP community.

In most games the True endgame is either PvP or some type of replayable minigame from most my experiences. You really think people want a new dungeon so they can run it 100 times? that's not fun. A new boss to kill 1000 times? that's not fun. Taking part in player vs player combat or organized event....that's fun. Player minds > NPC

I'll close this with some last words thou.

Square Enix isn't famous for being a MMORPG developing body. They are famous for their console games.
Square Enix has console players playing a MMORPG (usually played by pc master race players) so theres a split shift community.
ATM there isn't any open world pvp maps, and square enix doesn't put much time, effort into pvp.

The fact this forum is this massive, kind of just proves my point and everyone else in agreement honestly.
Open World PvP zone sounds like something ill play for the next 2-5 years.

Look at other games Dark souls 1 2 and 3. Huge communities that just play that game to PVP (console game)
Runescape's Wilderness removal: lost HALF of its playerbase (MMORPG)
Tera's battlegrounds: Active 24/7 and prob the most active thing on that mmo (MMORPG)
BDO: pvp rules that game in general (MMORPG)
League of Legends, Smite, Heros of the storm, any shooter: Same map, Same tools, just pure PvP replayability (console games)


My point here is, simple content isn't going to keep people for very long (Dungeons, Raids, Trails ect.) You need REPLAYABLE content. PvP is highly REPLAYABLE as long as you make "good" Simple content is like a basic video game. You can only play it so much until your bored....you know exactly whats going to happen. You cannot predict what a player will do thou....they think...they adapt...they far more interesting and enjoyable to play with.

Anyways I typed way too much more than I thought I would about this. If u read all this your very patient LOL o/ ill be pvping on ffxiv bai!

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Originally Posted by Kisagami

If you want something built around PVP, why not play another game? The majority of players like the fact PVP is a side thing that doesn’t interrupt or isolate people from the larger story as a whole. Including fates and beast tribe quests in a PVP only area just will make things feel more elitist and there would be pressure to join such a thing.

PVP - with people who love camping spawn points and fates just to be jerks - breeds a toxic community with people being resentful of each other. Overwatch is proof that it breeds a toxic community. I love FF14 because it avoids that.

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Leaving aside the request of this thread for once, how about this question? If players like this want an entire game only they can suit themselves with then why not just play a single player game?
Accept that there can be some things different made for other types of players in a MMORPG or just pick a single player game instead of being a condescendingly self-centered person
There are things that I also dislike in the game but knowing that it wasn't made for me and that I share the game with others, I try to be mature and accept the situation

I really don't know why people are always like "No PvP, PvP is toxic". As someone who has done a lot of PvP, in multiple games, PvP isn't that toxic at all, in fact the worst toxicity I have seen in this game was in PvE, when Titan HM was needed for relic, and they hadn't fixed the latency yet. I was told to uninstall the game and kill myself there lol.

With the exclusion of Rust, PvP in games isn't that toxic (and you even see a fair amount of friendly helpful people in Rust too)

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I really don't know why people are always like "No PvP, PvP is toxic". As someone who has done a lot of PvP, in multiple games, PvP isn't that toxic at all, in fact the worst toxicity I have seen in this game was in PvE, when Titan HM was needed for relic, and they hadn't fixed the latency yet. I was told to uninstall the game and kill myself there lol.

With the exclusion of Rust, PvP in games isn't that toxic (and you even see a fair amount of friendly helpful people in Rust too)

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I, for one, would love an open world PvP zone
Some people should understand that there can be something made for everyone in a beautiful MMORPG that's made for several types of players

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Originally Posted by Ahribear

Yes please. Would be so easy to implement in a way that it won't bother those who aren’t interested in PvP.

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That's what I can't understand, it's like someone asking for the Gold Saucer to be removed cause it's not their type even though no one is forcing them to go for it cause it was made for other people in a massively multiplayer online RPG.. :|

GW2 has the RvR maps that works like a charm.

A tri-faction PvP, that could lead to a "Maelstrom vs Gridania vs Uld'ah" fight, on a gigantic map where people can join/leave anytime.
You can build/destroy, attack/defend.
Playing in small group or a big one.

It is what make the game attractive, as you can engage in fun instantly.
It also gives buffs has your server (nation here) gain some ressource (with no penalties if you loose ressource or fall down behind the others servers).


This is a(n almost) non-toxic way of playing PvP as it makes PvE players enjoying PvP in large group.

As long as there's a PVP mode you can turn on and off, should be fine. I wouldn't wanna be bothered in the middle of fetch quests by PVP, especially when leveling a char with no mount.

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Originally Posted by Jellybums

As long as there's a PVP mode you can turn on and off, should be fine. I wouldn't wanna be bothered in the middle of fetch quests by PVP, especially when leveling a char with no mount.

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World of Warcraft has this thing called "Warmode" pretty much you can only get attacked in the open world if you decide to turn it on. FFXIV could totally do something like this.

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Originally Posted by Ezikeo

World of Warcraft has this thing called "Warmode" pretty much you can only get attacked in the open world if you decide to turn it on. FFXIV could totally do something like this.

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Warmode is a joke and nothing can change that fact.
What is the point of a warmode when no Alliance player is turning it on?

The fact is, you can't force PvP on players, so warmode was a solution. Players opting out of it is an option.

A PvP Mode-sync button can do more than just alllow us to be hit by other players. It can sync our levels so it's possible to keep/use PvE skills like 3.0 PvP, no need to load different set layout. Really, the possibilities are endless:

• Devs can convert any existing maps automagically. Pick one, any map! We want this already! :D
• BLU is otw. Player-created raids, anyone? Or at the very least, no more SSS striking dummy! Something other than ERP to put in your character's "real job" resume ;)

this is a good idea! ^_^!

do it :spicy:

I'm all for it :)

There is literally no reason to not add something like this as long as it's opt out. People saying otherwise are the kind of people who will complain about literally anything that isn't their own personal favorite way to do things.

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Originally Posted by Cereus

There is literally no reason to not add something like this as long as it's opt out. People saying otherwise are the kind of people who will complain about literally anything that isn't their own personal favorite way to do things.

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Opportunity cost. It means that they could have used their time better by doing something else.

There's really no point to adding a feature that is dead already in every game where it already exists, or adding a feature that they are not going to do anything to support, and this is both.

I would love to see Open World PVP be added not for myself but for the many FC Members and friends who have not played in a long while who have said to me "If they added open world PVP that would be it for me, I would come back" It's missing and something that alot of people in general enjoy about MMOs having. I think for those who don't enjoy PVP or would be scared of the idea of being sniped while out gathering or enjoying their MSQs, or whatever to add an option on your character perhaps that would turn PVP on or off to be able to engage with others. This would be a great addition for so many reasons, I haven't enjoyed PVP since the skill changes, if any improvements to be made to PVP please consider this :) We're about to be the Warriors of Darkness right? What a better time than that?

With the arrival of new wow players, maybe shadowbringers is a good time to add this feature.

i enjoyed WoW pvp just because you could chase a ork or something out of town

Can we get some dev feedback on this or was this thread just meant for us to keep posting about something we all want till the end of time. Make the zone give all the abilities back and keep the button culling ti the instanced crap that is ffxiv pvp currently

You would think after 35 pages, we would get some sort of response. It's either because its coming and they want to surprise us. Or they dont want to tell us no. They had to have seen this thread.

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Originally Posted by Casca_Longinus

Can we get some dev feedback on this or was this thread just meant for us to keep posting about something we all want till the end of time. Make the zone give all the abilities back and keep the button culling ti the instanced crap that is ffxiv pvp currently

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Originally Posted by Wyvernheart

You would think after 35 pages, we would get some sort of response. It's either because its coming and they want to surprise us. Or they dont want to tell us no. They had to have seen this thread.

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Sadly, ow pvp is not gonna happen. Can't see why SE would invest resources in making this considering how pvp is prioritized in this game. Yes, I'm prepared to eat my words if they actually do make some sort of ow pvp.

I always look at Japanese forums, but I am impressed that such a thread exists here.
A teleport beyond the server is implemented.
I think that the world of PVP may be possible. I expect.

I think that there are also people who want the Japanese PVP player, but since the thread itself does not exist, I will ask them.
From a friend of a distant PVP

I wonder is there a thread like this one on the JP side.

I hear that our post are indeed being read and passed up the chain. Is there any chance we can confirm that purs wishes found here have been reported or maybe a response of some kind, please?

before 4.0 i would have loved open world pvp, but now that we have this 5 button Moba thingy going on i think it would be boring.

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I hear that our post are indeed being read and passed up the chain. Is there any chance we can confirm that purs wishes found here have been reported or maybe a response of some kind, please?

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Where have you heard this? Last I heard was when they discussed it at vegas fan fest during the audience Q&A they said they had tested world pvp but had no plans to implement it...

My hopes are still high. May we be blessed with some form of open girls pvp this expansion. For our patience alone. We deserve something. Besides the pvp events or fates that were thought of. Maybe we can throw in some of the Eureka abilities. Just a thought.

I still have hope for open world pvp too, single instanced zone or otherwise. At least a dev response would be nice considering how long this thread has become.

I have hope! This would be so much fun. The FATES idea is great. Having fun buffs around the area too. Consumables on the ground to make things interesting. Hell, even the ability to build and defend towers or something would be great. Have all the DC's in some kind of territory war and each DC gets a reward based on where they stood. Special glams and mounts for gaining rep/chieves in the area or something.

The potential is limitless and could be repeatable content.

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Originally Posted by Mango24

Where have you heard this? Last I heard was when they discussed it at vegas fan fest during the audience Q&A they said they had tested world pvp but had no plans to implement it...

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I think I was talking in general about the forums. They did do a test on some form of openworld pvp that they spoke very little about at the last fanfest. But nothing has been said since. I'll keep dreaming for now.

This would be amazing....

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

This would be amazing....

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It would. And it would not interfere with others gameplay. I wish they would just do it already. The lack of feedback to this page, and the test they mentioned brought me to think that they may have something in the works. I just don't know anymore. But my hope is still there.

I would really like an open world PvP zone as well.

I'm still unsure how it would be implemented now that PvE and PvP are two separate systems. If you're out in the open world doing your MSQ or whatever, do you have your PvP kit or PvE kit? I feel like the game would be a lot less interesting on the PvE side if you were forced into the PvP kits, and it'd feel really awkward if you have your regular PvE kit by default and got switched into it if you...got ganked or something.

this world pvp zone being the only zone where you can use your pve kit to pvp would be a great compromise to the consensus of "3.x was the best, every other iteration of pvp will never compare" since people just want the button bloat for some reason, it would be fun, and fun is always the main goal of any world pvp

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Originally Posted by Praesul

I'm still unsure how it would be implemented now that PvE and PvP are two separate systems. If you're out in the open world doing your MSQ or whatever, do you have your PvP kit or PvE kit? I feel like the game would be a lot less interesting on the PvE side if you were forced into the PvP kits, and it'd feel really awkward if you have your regular PvE kit by default and got switched into it if you...got ganked or something.

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Once you 'sign up' the pvp move set would come into play. And you wouldn't be able to touch anyone outside of the 'que' also, this is only the case if you have over people using the same zone. We would like our own zone. Something like Eureka.

A zone like Kholusia would be neat. Open space for big fights, an upper tier, and places to run into and hide. Anemos is also a good enviorment for how expansive and tight the wood work is. Bonus points for death ledges.

Reminds me of Aion actually which had some beautiful scenery for open world pvp.