Attention Overgeared DPS in AK

If the dps insists on tanking trash, let them do it. Bust out sword oath to make the run faster, and see how long it takes when people die and have to run back.

all i can say with this OP ..he hate when we do AOE ..cos AOE = slow kill and we might get aggros and he might leave ???

your on Ragnarok ?? name wrote :) ty ..anyway i think ill party with my FC ..they can hold all aggro :D when we AOE

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Originally Posted by KogaDrake

dear tank (overgeared tanks too),

if my `over' geared DPS uses any buffs I'm tanking even the marked mob. I enter AK expecting to tank a good part of the trash, its trash and to hold back to not tank and take longer isnt worth the time. I'll hold back a bit on the bosses for you, but dont expect to tank trash, and get mad when you lose hate.

If the healer is bad, the dps will watch there threat, but if I as a DPS can tank one trash with little to no risk of death, THANK the DPS for speeding up the run rather than slowing it to let you tank.

Signed
-a bad player

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fixed that for you

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

all i can say with this OP ..he hate when we do AOE ..cos AOE = slow kill and we might get aggros and he might leave ???

your on Ragnarok ?? name wrote :) ty ..anyway i think ill party with my FC ..they can hold all aggro :D when we AOE

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Nice nitpicking you did thar. Reading is hard for some people I guess :x

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Originally Posted by cfStatic

If I go all out on 1 and still take it from you, please do leave. That way I can drop and re-queue with a proper tank like I should've done the first time 'round. Sincerely, an over-geared DPS running AK.

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/sigh, what is with people on here and not reading the full thread before posting?

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

you dont like losing aggroes ... and you want us to aim mob you mark = 1 mob ..so we cant do AOE that touching those you didnt mark so we get aggro and you leave ....

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uhh... what? All I ask is (focus target). Also, don't use your aoe on slept mobs. That's about it. :T

If I go all out on 1 and still take it from you, please do leave. That way I can drop and re-queue with a proper tank like I should've done the first time 'round. Sincerely, an over-geared DPS running AK.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Nice nitpicking you did thar. Reading is hard for some people I guess :x

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you dont like losing aggroes ... and you want us to aim mob you mark = 1 mob ..so we cant do AOE that touching those you didnt mark so we get aggro and you leave ....


to make sure i read

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Originally Posted by Amyas

--->>>>If you want to go all out(means touch all or kill any.. could mean AOE too), fine, but do it on the marked mob(marked mob mean the one you touch mean 1 by 1 ..so no AOE), if not, you get to be the tank(i get aggro if i do AOE) and I'll leave. I'm not there to play a game of trash mob ping-pong with you, especially when you've apparently ran it enough to know better. :D

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there i read between line

Are you the kind of tank that sucks and thinks that the game should be safer rather than better?

When a tank pulls, he's not there to do damage. He is there to control agro. Attack, pull, mark 1, flash, switch to #2, attack agro, switch to #3, attack agro, switch again. Tank is to control all mobs.

As a SMN using CD's I've been able to steal agro from a tank who is actively attacking a target. If I were to then use Bane and spread my dots around while doing more AE I can take a lot of agro. My FC tanks know this, and accommodate because they know trash dies faster this way. In AK we do 3-6 mobs at a time so they die faster, same with PR/CM. Tanks always hold these well.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Nice nitpicking you did thar. Reading is hard for some people I guess :x



/sigh, what is with people on here and not reading the full thread before posting?



uhh... what? All I ask is (focus target). Also, don't use your aoe on slept mobs. That's about it. :T

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wait sleeping mob at this state of playing ??? i understand at lower level ..but sleeping mob on a fast run ??? come on are you using Disciple of War armo if you cant survive many mobs hitting you or you ask other to sleep mob and waste time by killing one by one???

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Dangit, if you randomly steal hate, that's absolutely fine, I messed up, and it'll be easy peasy to fix with a provok+tomahawk and the arse end of butcher's block combo that I start on the original marked mob. Again, this thread is about (geared, knowledgable) people going off on their own and purposely tanking as a blm or w/e and ignoring my marks, because hey, its doable. Takes longer but its doable.

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Tank pulls 3-6 mobs.
Everyone usually starts on #1.
BLM/SMN start their AE rotations - that's why you pulled so many right? If i'm rolling SMN, I'll do my full Dot stack on 1, move it to the rest, case my AE's, then start adding single dots to every other non-marked target as these will do more damage than me just spamming Ruin. By the time mob 4-6 are targeted by the tank they're usually down 1/2-3/5 hp. That's a Win.

That being said, if I see a trash mob on a healer and the tank isn't picking it up, I'll purposefully agro that thing and unload on it.

You don't even need to mark... Enemies get ordered alphabetically when pulling, the one you "shield lob" first gets the the first letter and just ask DD to go by that.

Also, if the DD are indeed over geared enemies should die fast enough that pulling aggro for a second shouldn't be a problem. AK is so DD geared that every fight is a DPS check. Tanking is a joke in that place!