SUMMONER, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE OR ADD? (EVOLUTION & STAT ALLOCATION)

A couple items I have been thinking about that might makes things a bit better.

1. Have the Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar limit break change based on what pet they have out, and if their pet is not out then and only then use the Black Mage or White Mage Limit Break.
2. Change the way the spells to summon pets work. Instead of have the Summoner and Scholar Pets Replace Summon 1 and Summon 2 have them learned as new Spells, this way players have a bit more choice in what summon they use.
3. This goes for Arcanist right now since its the only class with 2 jobs, have ability points redone with each job.
4. When I set my pet to defensive I expect when it's done it should still be in defensive and not go back to the I will attack the next thing my master does.
5. Another control option would be to allow us to determine which attacks will be used and which ones will not when you using the Attack and Sic Commands

I really don't care how they look. I just want them stronger and fix that horrible envoker skills.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team...

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I am sorry, but that is not acceptable. Summoner is an iconic FF job, and their summons have always been awesome. Getting them right is very important. In FFXIV, my summons should be a whole hell of a lot cooler than they are. They look like muppets. SE has completely dropped the ball on this matter. And that is beside the point that the majority of what I am contributing in a fight is not my pet, but my DOTs. Since when is a summoner a poison style character? This isn't a matter of "we will consider your feedback for the future". The Summoner in this game completely fails to capture the spirit, feel and style of a FF summoner.

I personally enjoy the difference between the Summoners from FFXI. I mean the idea of the Egi's only being a percentage of the primals power is cool. If Summoner's summoned the primals that would diminish the value of being a primal. Maybe they could fix the Limit Breaks and give each class their own type of Limit break and at LB 3 the Summoner could summon a primal haha. The only thing I can think of that could make a Summoner better is a slight damage buff, but then they would demolish other classes in PVP. So...I would say Summoners are pretty good the way they are.

I just want more Egi summons and the ability to summon Carbuncle again! I hate the fact that they got written over by Titan and Garuda.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

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We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

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I really hope the developing team will change their mind. Most people in here really don't mind not getting a 2x playersize avatar but the pets itself are lacking in every aspect not one of them looks even half as cool as carbuncle
Damn I want to be able to summon him on my smn again :/
What about the people who would like to see a more pet oriented summoner class instead of the warlock clone he is right now?

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

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That's a shame. Coulda of have Egi's grow-up like they did in AION.
Feel bad for you SMN's. The egi's are just meh, and Garuda looks the worse as it resembles nothing of Garuda.
It does look like an awesome design for a Wind Element to farm shards and such.
Also summoner in general just is a DoT class...He doesn't feel like a summoner to me, at all.

Do the egis go big and intimidating during Limit Break at least? That could work.

On the beta forums people talked about the negative appearance of the pets and the dev response there was wait for launch and play the class then give us your opinion, now people have played the class and it looks like the opinion is still the same so dev response is pretty much deal with it.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I really don't care how they look. I just want them stronger and fix that horrible envoker skills.

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Their strength is directly tied to your stats.

The least they can do is drop cool girl avatars on SCH. Like Shiva, Siren etc would perform much better as a SCH pet that looks pretty, than the abominations that are the titan, ifrit, garuda summons.