Opinions on Crystal Tower: Labyrinth of the Ancients and Syrcus Tower

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Originally Posted by TBerry

What part of "it's not a job" do you not understand?

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That’s what I’m asking you

If your only answer to why CT is fine is because it’s quick then why are you even doing roulettes

I mean “it’s not a job” right? Just don’t do the roulettes

i think that a big part of it isnt the raids themselves but the fact that when synced down u play a really boring version of a job that is not fun to play. I dont particularly like void ark either but im still glad it isnt crystal tower cuz i have a bit more of my rotation usually.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

i think that a big part of it isnt the raids themselves but the fact that when synced down u play a really boring version of a job that is not fun to play. I dont particularly like void ark either but im still glad it isnt crystal tower cuz i have a bit more of my rotation usually.

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This is how I feel about getting the Endwalker alliance raids in roulettes. Those fights are just as braindead steamrolled as Crystal Tower, just flashier (I literally only refer to them as "level 90 CT"....), but at least I have more buttons to press to keep myself entertained.

The amount of groups I'm seeing wiping or going one healer away from a wipe because CT teaches them that nothing hurts much and you can have all the stack markers in one spot is insane.
Every time I see multiple stack markers anywhere outside of CT, I can except 4-7 people to get blasted out of orbit because the very first AR the game forces them to do teaches them it's alright to do so. Seriously, who greenlit that change? It was fine before.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

What part of "it's not a job" do you not understand?

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It's not a job, but it shouldn't be a lobotomy simulator either is what we're saying.
You have plenty of other ways (and way more effective at that) to get tomes if that is what you're after. We're trying to vouch not only for our personal experience running these ARs, but for the players coming after us who are learning from them.


imho, those who don't want it changed simply because it is comfy are being selfish. CT actively teaches sprouts pretty bad habits that they carry straight into Ivalice, Eden and current content.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

It's a game not a job.
People are allowed to do something easy in the game.

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easy =/= braindead

I tried joining a min il run of labyrinth a few years ago during EW patches, we didn't get past Behemoth

Really makes me wonder how it was back when it was new with ARR's job complexity

I'm so, so sick of them. They aren't fun, they're boring as hell but people just want their 10 minute clear so what can you do.

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Originally Posted by Remolia

easy =/= braindead

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I got Lab last night for Alli rou and yeah, I was falling asleep I'm not even joking.

Easy = / = Boring

If the literal only mechanic a boss does is "run away from a circle" the content is going to become extremely boring, extremely fast. And if I wasn't going to suffer a 30 minute queue ban for refusing to suffer through a 10 minute raid, I'd sooner immediately just leave instead.

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Originally Posted by Azurarok

I tried joining a min il run of labyrinth a few years ago during EW patches, we didn't get past Behemoth

Really makes me wonder how it was back when it was new with ARR's job complexity

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I joined one of those around that time, too! We cleared, but it was SPICY.
Healing that was so much fun.