FFXIV poor performance outlier on new Radeon 9070 XT cards!?

Mine is doing alright, it seems to perform better than what the benchmark reports. I play at 3440x1440 and I'm typically hovering around 120-144 fps on max settings, pure raster performance with no upscaling.

If you're getting 10fps in Limsa, something else is terribly wrong. Lots of player characters is CPU intensive, not GPU. I don't see a difference between a 6900xt, 7900xtx, or 9070xt (I own the last two, sold the 6900xt) when in populated areas. I have no driver issues, the game runs wonderfully.

sorry but an Ryzen 9 5900X would not cause this the only thing in my system that changed is I went from 75+ FPS (in all instances no matter how many people were in draw distance) at 1440p from a 3070 Ti with 8GB VRAM to a 9070 XT with 16GB of VRAM. You honestly should not be claiming that it's CPU to anyone when we're literally talking about a 16 year old DirectX API and Nvidia GameWorks from 16 years ago. You are clearly an outlier in this situation hence "mines seems to be doing better than what the benchmark reports" which the benchmark is from a very reputable source. Do go knocking other peoples other hardware just because you're an outlier, what COULD be possible is I could have a bad GPU but then I wouldn't be getting 100 FPS in Star Citizen an ACTUALLY intensive game or my GPU wouldn't be performing leaps and bounds better in ANYTHING other than XIV.

I don't know if this helps anyone, but I have a 7900 GRE and got absolutely terrible performance in FFXIV ever since 7.0. The worst was the Fafnir fight, which was running at around 20fps the whole time for me. This all persisted through a few driver updates, but it was all in Windows 10.

Earlier this year, I moved all the same hardware over to a Linux installation (Fedora w/KDE) and it all works perfectly, including Fafnir which is a solid 75fps, the max refresh rate of my QHD display. To me, this would seem to indicate there is a problem specifically with the Windows AMD drivers and FFXIV, as other games have mostly just seen minor improvements you'd expect due to the lower CPU/RAM overhead.

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Originally Posted by s32ialx

sorry but an Ryzen 9 5900X would not cause this the only thing in my system that changed is I went from 75+ FPS (in all instances no matter how many people were in draw distance) at 1440p from a 3070 Ti with 8GB VRAM to a 9070 XT with 16GB of VRAM. You honestly should not be claiming that it's CPU to anyone when we're literally talking about a 16 year old DirectX API and Nvidia GameWorks from 16 years ago. You are clearly an outlier in this situation hence "mines seems to be doing better than what the benchmark reports" which the benchmark is from a very reputable source. Do go knocking other peoples other hardware just because you're an outlier, what COULD be possible is I could have a bad GPU but then I wouldn't be getting 100 FPS in Star Citizen an ACTUALLY intensive game or my GPU wouldn't be performing leaps and bounds better in ANYTHING other than XIV.

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Clearly your emotions are getting in the way of your troubleshooting process. Maybe you should troubleshoot yourself first? Limsa isn't a good way to judge your performance on FFXIV for a GPU, that's why I included my comment there.

Also, you don't know how exceptions work with consumer electronics. The people who don't have issues don't post. Those who do, will.

I simply was offering my experience with the card, it's good to have reports on both sides. No one is going to help you if you get so emotional over computer parts. I hope you seek the help you need, but I doubt anyone wants to help you.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

I'm not sure how this stacks up to what it "should be", but here's where mine landed at 1440p Maximum:

https://i.imgur.com/6846U3O.png
Voltage Offset: -120mV
VRAM Max Frequency: 2700
Power Limit: 363W

After that I was able to get FSR4 working in-game through a somewhat painfully convoluted mix of methods. While not really necessary to get smooth framerates, it at least does away with TSCMAA.

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This is with a completely stock card since I just got it installed yesterday and haven't had time for any tweaking:

https://i.imgur.com/z3Ywf6f.png

I'm sure there's room for improvement/optimization but overall I am happy.

I have the Sapphire Pulse, which is the card Steve from GN used for all his charts but mine does not exhibit the odd fan speed behavior he complained about; either there is something wrong with his card or it was an early review sample from January

Edit: for comparison my 3080 before scored ~17500. The improvement does feel smaller in FFXIV than it is for many other games. I'll have to investigate FSR4 magic.

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Originally Posted by SendoTakeshi

Clearly your emotions are getting in the way of your troubleshooting process. Maybe you should troubleshoot yourself first? Limsa isn't a good way to judge your performance on FFXIV for a GPU, that's why I included my comment there.

Also, you don't know how exceptions work with consumer electronics. The people who don't have issues don't post. Those who do, will.

I simply was offering my experience with the card, it's good to have reports on both sides. No one is going to help you if you get so emotional over computer parts. I hope you seek the help you need, but I doubt anyone wants to help you.

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Wow harassment much because I called you out on your assumptions, anyways I'm not going to read another one of your posts limsa is a perfectly fine place to test considering I could get 75+ FPS there on my 3070 Ti and even in player houses with over 100 players still 75 FPS.

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Originally Posted by s32ialx

Wow harassment much because I called you out on your assumptions, anyways I'm not going to read another one of your posts limsa is a perfectly fine place to test considering I could get 75+ FPS there on my 3070 Ti and even in player houses with over 100 players still 75 FPS.

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Ok, have fun with that. I do hope you enjoy the new patch!

WAH WAH! Everyone calm down :eek: :rolleyes:

7.2 is out today! Would be interesting to see some updates from anyone with this card, are there any observable differences?

between 50-65 FPS in limsa. @ 1440 max even custom with LoD and all that stuff.

Unfortunately not much people atm in Limsa but Maximum graphics settings with no upscaling gives me around 80-95 FPS in Limsa at 4K. I can imagine it would go a bit lower with more people.

CPU: 9800X3D
GPU: Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT

I lower some of my settings usually and can get 130+ FPS.