Viera Changes

yeah i was pretty shocked when i jumped into the creator (before on top, after on bottom)

https://i.imgur.com/JLjIpkl.png

she looks better in motion and after an eye color change but i'm still disappointed with the eyes. the eyeliner that can't be changed is way too dark/thick now and there's less eye shine

https://i.imgur.com/SdlaQUm.png

Face 4 Viera lips, are just absolutely ruined now.
https://i.imgur.com/X4n93XU.pnghttps://imgur.com/a/yLQSwqZ

Male Viera face 2 looks too weird now...it lost some of its feminity for a more masculine look which looks jarring and the eyes on it...it makes it look like you have big bug eyes especially if you have large irises and those irises are the most solid black...also can we not have the brown nose on all faces? If I wanted that I would have went with face 1.

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Originally Posted by catjacket

EXCEPT the removal/alteration of her hair highlights patterning.

and is a significant change in her appearance that doesn't constitute a "graphical improvement" rather than a complete design change

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That is true. I can see why the highlights are important to your character. I don't quite understand why change the pattern... Hoping that may be an old texture that slid into the benchmark?

Love your color combination btw, the dark skin and the bright green highlights look really nice.

Yeah so... also chiming in, I don't understand why some of these changes were even made.
I'll disagree with OP on the lighting for the most part. The lighting is an improvement, even if it does light up the dark side a lot sometimes I think it's fine and just different.

But some changes made to the textures seem both unnecessary and bad.
Lipstick is a much different shape. The lips are a whole different shape and changes the resting expression. Noses got changed a bit.
Optional eye makeup also looks less pronounced because the lighting has given less contrast to the face I think.
Why were the iris and pupil changed so much? The old ones looked so good and pretty high quality compared to the other races. Veena lost their larger pupil.
Where did the lip shine go not just on Viera, but all females?

Veena eyebrows, the updated hair, and the lighting overall looks better I guess but all my friend's Viera look so different with the new lips.
I haven't seen any Viera that looks the same but better because they really changed how they look by changing the lip shape which was one of their defining features.
I'm guessing the Veena pupils being the same as Rava was an oversight.

Male Viera definitely look weird now, coupled with the fact that there's no viera hats in 7.0 is really disappointing. It's like they aren't even listening to feedback.
They didn't even address the weird noses people commented on months ago when we got our first look at it.

Way to mess this up SE.

So far I'm satisfied with what I've seen on the benchmark and I cannot wait to play Viper.

I do hope that they look at the issues being brought up with the character creator and iron them out before full release; however, to me a lot of comparisons I have seen look the same but one with better graphics. (Not just in this thread, but some of the others I have taken a look at)

One thing I was worried about after seeing the previews was the darkness of the male rava nose since I wasn't sure if the option to darken it was already enabled or not but it seems fine here without it turned on. However, I can't really tell the difference if I enable he setting which is odd.

Also thank you to Alithea for helping me get the image working, I'm not very good with these forums so I greatly appreciate it!
https://i.imgur.com/GltX6o1.png

adding another person whos happy with their bunny! other than that my beauty mark seems to be broken for whatever reason lmao but i already posted a bug report on that. i still wish face3 had the face1 dark nose option then hed be perfect

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...83edf78adfe33&

Throwing my (non-existent) hat in here to express my extreme disappointment. I've been maining male Viera (Veena) since they were released in Endwalker, and despite the short timeframe, I came to love my character immensely.

What I see now in the benchmark is not him. I use face 3, mouth 3, and the new mouth is terrible in comparison. In addition to being an inexplicably darker color, it's also a different shape. The change can be diminished somewhat with lip color, but the shape remains bizarrely flat and featureless.

The eyes are also empty and lifeless, with muddy colors, unclear textures, and strangely smaller pupils. Changing the eye color does not alleviate this; it only makes them darker or more washed out.

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Originally Posted by Kimitu

I'm extremely conflicted with these changes to my viera. My darker skinned character here has had her bunny nose entirely removed, not to mention the big difference in eye colour? Her nose and face look blurry, and the new lipstick looks god awful. I wonder how they managed to mess things up this badly. I have been incredibly happy with my viera design for years now, and to have her face changed to something worse feels heartbreaking to me. She looks lifeless and like she's constantly frowning. I kinda understand why because look at those flat and dimensionless lips??

https://i.imgur.com/FyyxKqo.png https://i.imgur.com/2Z1yhto.png

I am truly saddened to see my bunny nose removed like this, it's one of my favourite features of viera aside from the ears. We seriously got so shafted...

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They really ruined some of Face 3 most notable features. I hope they listen to us and fix whatever they did to the lips, eyes and nose. I want face 3 nose back!