Should the devs appologise to the community

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Originally Posted by Snorky

Changing the goal posts again stormy and please point to where I said that anyone said the game is dying ? The doom posting is ridiculous on this forum

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Its stormy....their alts are more reasonable but yeah....don't expect a proper engagement without some good old fashioned goal post shifting and narrative twists :P

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Yoshida should personally come to my house and apologise for adding the loporrits to the game.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

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I love Lopporits lol.

When I knew them they looked like this tho...

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.1299f72b...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I love Lopporits lol.

When I knew them they looked like this tho...

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.1299f72b...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

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Me too, to be honest - although still found that meme, as well as the one you posted, funny! :)

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Me too, to be honest - although still found that meme, as well as the one you posted, funny! :)

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It's pretty hilarious - though for me I'd be like "What the hell is this!? ... And why do I want more of them!?"

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Originally Posted by kaynide

No;

The only REAL way to create change in a game is for enough people to become unsatisfied enough that it hurts a company financially. As in unsub and move on.

Sure, the game devs want you to enjoy their game, but they really only have whatever statistics they have to steer in the direction that results in the most players doing "a thing". Flawed or not, if a player keeps paying their sub, the devs don't really have any reason to course correct THAT much.

Listening and doing what people say to do on a place like this, full of us armchair game makers, is folly. For every person that wants X, someone else wants not X.

If you want to stay onboard and STILL hope to make change this late in the game's life, you know how they work: If you don't like a particular kind of content, just don't do it. If enough people don't do the thing, they'll stop making "the thing". And if enough keep doing/do more of "that other thing", SE will make more of "the other thing".

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Very true. Look no further than what YoshiP said about relic engagement. More people did it after it was dumbed down so it's a success. More players play SMN now as well as far as I've heard. It's a bad metric I think but hey, if SE listens to that then who am I to argue. /shrug

I don't need an apology. Aside from a relic grind, we got everything they said they'd deliver. Raids, trials, dungeons, quests, crafting content, the island, Ishgard housing, a deep dungeon, criterion and a pvp update that got me to pvp regularly for the first time in 8 years. Now it's too late for them to provide a relic quest, but I guess they'll make a different one next time. I didn't like Eureka or Bozja relics either so this is not something that ruins the game for me.

I've had different focuses over the years, from mentoring, deep dungeon soloing, savage raiding and housing into hunting. Still got plenty to do and try. I think a lot of players who experience a lack of content have never really delved into any aspect of the game very deeply.

Oh please, they already apologize all the time. Yoshi P even cries on stream.

Crocodile tears, I'd rather have them show their true colors than offer fake apologies.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Please try to leave constructive replies instead of just saying anything to be heard
I've been toying with this question in my mind basically since around 6.2 when it became obvious this game was'nt going to deliver any real of meaningful change.. seeing the clear nature of the cash shop and the exploitation in the games current content output vs what we pay our sub for, anbd ofcourse that 7.0 will be a min of 6months between patches of basically... nothing...

should the developers appologise for the state of the game?

and if not... what level of accountability SHOULD we hold them to? if any..

(ofcourse this is just a question i am not demanding this or that people do this so please read it properly before you start attacking me)

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I mean Yoshi will give the same apology he gave on the second anniversary about being sorry for not listening to the fans and so on.

I mean this in an honest manner and not an attack, what do you feel they need to apologize for? What statement or promise did they make that they didn't follow through on and didn't explain why?

If it's just a situation where you didn't like what was presented and you felt they should make certain changes that they never said would be made, then that's not anything they would need to apologize for.

If they didn't follow through on something they said, then we can review that and decide if there's something to apologize for there.