Square Enix, it's time to come clean about your plans for the future

With respect, there's no need for conspiracy theories. It doesn't matter what CBU3 is or isn't doing behind the scenes; all that matters is the product you're paying for and whether you're satisfied with it. Regardless of whether CBU3 has been putting 100% or 1% of their effort towards FF14, it won't change the reality that the updates they've provided are the updates they've provided.

If you are satisfied with the product, sounds like a good reason to keep playing. If you're not satisfied with the product, sounds like a good reason to try something else instead. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

If you are satisfied with the product, sounds like a good reason to keep playing. If you're not satisfied with the product, sounds like a good reason to try something else instead. It's as simple as that.

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Let's not ignore the in-between: express concerns.
Admittedly, though, it's better when the company you would like to express concerns to doesn't force you to do so by way of public appeal trialed by tribalism.

I don't really think there is much of a roadmap to be had unless SE is actually changing up the formula which I don't see happening. Like the WoW roadmap makes sense as a way for the devs to convey that this is what they are doing since it is a completely abnormal wow expansion with how much they have been putting out for it. We know they have an ambiguous 10 year plan for the game that we are already treading through and we know Yoshida has a general thought process behind how he wants the next few expansions to go story wise. I don't think there is much else to be said about it.

I still believe that FF16 affected what we have been getting in FF14 to some extent as I don't think it's possible for anyone to balance all the plates that Yoshida has spinning, but I am going to remain cautiously optimistic about what DT has in store based on his comments regarding wanting to bring exploration content back on top of the new things already added in EW on top of trying to add a new type of battle content as well. I am also gonna be meh about jobs until we see if we are getting ShB 3.0 with combat or if they are going to shake it up again in DT.

I don't know man. They started the FF16 project when Heavensward was the most recent expansion. I guess only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

Let's not ignore the in-between: express concerns.
Admittedly, though, it's better when the company you would like to express concerns to doesn't force you to do so by way of public appeal trialed by tribalism.

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True. But at the end of the day, they're a business and we're the consumers, so money talks. If you want for them to better respond to a direction you dont like the game is going, you do yourself and SE a favor by unsubbing. Otherwise your continued sub means that you're still generally satisfied with the product and that you're generally ok with the current game.

This already happened before with how they lost so much business with 1.0 and they were left with finally responding to feedback.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

True. But at the end of the day, they're a business and we're the consumers, so money talks. If you want for them to better respond to a direction you dont like the game is going, you do yourself and SE a favor by unsubbing. Otherwise your continued sub means that you're still generally satisfied with the product and that you're generally ok with the current game.

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Perhaps, but also at the end of the day, the situation isn't always so distinctly binary; yes or no, hate or love, all or nothing. Sometimes you like a thing but don't like things about it, and so you provide feedback and hope it gets better. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes a Japanese man gets more rings after he tells a portion of his consumerbase that they should go play ultimate [if they want to feel like they're playing the game].
At some point, more changes come in and one of them becomes the straw for the camel's back and then we leave because we've had enough.

I guess if you're trying to tell me that any sort of need to provide feedback should be avoided in favor of just dropping the product entirely, then I would tell you not to worry your pretty little head about it because we will, eventually, when that time comes. Though I would then question why you haven't left, because you have also felt the need to provide feedback, and have provided in turn. So by all rights, you should have fucked off just as much as the rest of us should have.

But if you're not trying to tell me that, then I'm not sure why you're so intent on trying to spur binary choices such as "like it and shut up" or "don't like it and leave." I sincerely doubt it has anything to do with some kind of savior complex you would come up with if I didn't write this particular sentence, but I suppose I would believe it if you were to tell me that you're tired of seeing the feedback and the arguments, to which I would then say: try to not take things so heavily to the heart regarding opinions about things that have little, if anything, to do with you and especially by people you know almost nothing about.

Frankly, this forum would be a lot better if everyone just let those who have feedback provide it and leave the feedback be, whether they disagree with it, how it's written, what it's about, who it's from, or not. But everyone has pennies-worth of thoughts to give about everything, which leads to the constant bickering and eventual censorship of feedback without it ever having to even reach the company, which is probably what they wanted in the first place.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

With respect, there's no need for conspiracy theories. It doesn't matter what CBU3 is or isn't doing behind the scenes; all that matters is the product you're paying for and whether you're satisfied with it. Regardless of whether CBU3 has been putting 100% or 1% of their effort towards FF14, it won't change the reality that the updates they've provided are the updates they've provided.

If you are satisfied with the product, sounds like a good reason to keep playing. If you're not satisfied with the product, sounds like a good reason to try something else instead. It's as simple as that.

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It very much DOES matter. If they're working on other games, then it's cue for all of us to unsub because it will only mean that 7.x will deliver even less content.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

It very much DOES matter. If they're working on other games, then it's cue for all of us to unsub because it will only mean that 7.x will deliver even less content.

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Apparently, any answer other than yes is SE shill and PR talk.

So, let me give you the answer you wanna hear: Yes, they're working on other games.

Do yourself a favor and unsub right away. There's zero point in playing a dying game without any redeemable feature.

Leaving "feedback" and hoping the off chance devs might actually read the forum is pure copium. They won't. Forum is a place for drama, not for feedback.

Stop with your copium. Please take the cue and unsub

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I spent 16 years working retail, believe me, some people still haven't gotten far past that point.

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I deal with patients. Believe me, I know. lol

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't think there is anything wrong with FATEs or how they work, the problem is they don't give anything we need. Even the bicolor gemstones are only useful to a point, once you have bought everything you want with them there is no reason to go back for anything. Honestly I don't know what they could give out from FATEs that would make them useful in perpetuity. I think one of the problems we are running into with XIV is too many currencies, nearly every piece of content gives it's own kind of currency and that currency is then used to buy a very limited selection of items. Variants are a great example of this, the rewards you can buy are very few and the currency you get from it can only be used to buy these items. Honestly they could have made relic materials come from Variant dungeons, I feel like that is a missed opportunity.

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I am not that type of MMO player that puts up with boring systems just because the rewards are okay. Conversely, if content is fun I don't care about rewards. Fun is its own reward.

FATEs are nothing.

You go in, press your AoE #1 and #2 and then leave. It's sad that people think that's good content. I'm not even being snarky. As I said, I honestly believe MMO players have the lowest standards.