New Moonfire Faire disappointing glamour

Judging by the fabric it could be Ala Mhigan fashion. Looks much better than the previous ones imo.

Ah, male characters get something nice for a change and like clockwork female character players come to express their jealousy and offer itty bitty bikini bottoms of all things in exchange for a cool outfit, as if it's equality that male character players get to turn their character into a laughing stock.

As for giving female characters bikinis at all, maybe the devs know their audience who made 2B leggings one of the most popular female glam pieces. Let's not pretend these new panties will go unused.

Ok... WTH did this thread turn into.

Is it that hard to just stick to critiquing the gender-locking when those shorts and speedos in similar style would fit perfectly fine for the opposite genders.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Ah, male characters get something nice for a change and like clockwork female character players come to express their jealousy and offer itty bitty bikini bottoms of all things in exchange for a cool outfit, as if it's equality that male character players get to turn their character into a laughing stock.

As for giving female characters bikinis at all, maybe the devs know their audience who made 2B leggings one of the most popular female glam pieces. Let's not pretend these new panties will go unused.

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Yeah, removing gender locks on items seems to really only benefits female characters since any male character wearing a previously female exclusive glam looks like a joke or troll character.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

Yeah, removing gender locks on items seems to really only benefits female characters since any male character wearing a previously female exclusive glam looks like a joke or troll character.

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Well, save for hair-pieces.

But yeah it's unfortunate that feminine outfits often need a slight design change not not look awkward on males, while the other way around the only change needed is generally just a smaller hip-area.

Still, gender locking is naught but frustrating.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Ok... WTH did this thread turn into.

It is it that hard to just stick to critiquing the gender-locking when those shorts and speedos in similar style would fit perfectly fine for the opposite genders.

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Yes? Because there are people here who support gender-locking (and the hateful, regressive ideology that underpins it), and I'd like to think this thread highlights how fucking toxic the OF can be. There are legit people here arguing against the acceptance of queer people, that's fucking madness in a game as queer-coded as ffxiv.

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Originally Posted by GeminiReed

The point was that a beach themed event has been real light on bikini parts in the past few years.

I get it. Players that have been here since 2013 have gotten several but thanks to Square's addiction to FOMO many are unobtainable without throwing down RL cash and the older ones are stupidly expensive off the market board. I'm also well aware that it's not to everybody's taste but then neither are the cropped pants.

Making event glamours a zero-sum game is not fair to those of us who had the temerity to not have played since 1.0.

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The issue is not so much "getting another bikini" as "getting another split-gender piece where it's assumed that female characters should wear bikinis and male characters should wear shorts".

Also, while I do realise each design is unique in its details, there's a lot less room for variation in a bikini-sized amount of cloth versus full shorts.

I don't know what you mean by "making it a zero-sum game". I just want the option for my female character to wear those shorts. I'd settle for a skirt with the same length and print, even. Just not an expectation to wear the bikini.

Wasn't this post suppose to be about the Moonfire Faire's glamour prizes? (❁°͈▵°͈)

Aiden, while LGBTQ+ rights are very important, a post about pants on a video game's official forum is probably not the best place for it; it's a relatively small and inconsequential place. Not to mention, most of the people who are arguing with you are probably trolls trying to get a rise out of you. (Honestly, looking at the fact your forum account is from 2015 and you hadn't started posting til 2022 makes me somewhat suspicious of you and I'm really tired of trolls making jokes out of LGBTQ+ issues. =A=)

To those trying to argue with Aiden, I can't really tell if you lot are just trolls or old-fogies who don't know that yelling at your computer screen doesn't make you right or win an argument. Arguing on the internet gets you no where.
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And on a separate note, Mirelle are you saying Japanese women don't wear pants? （◎ー◎； ）

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Originally Posted by weebtext

epic thread derailment

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Just Aiden getting triggered over nothing.

Literally would prefer the bikini not exist and both genders get the shorts over another hehehe ladies pants magically turn into panties garbage