Dragoon is next

Can still put time into the job any level. Making easier does not hurt the game. Elites do.
If you just do 1-2-3 and nothing else then you playing poorly. I'm not a pro nor am I good but even so, you should try and use the whole kit. But having 30+ buttons that you need be fast is not healthy nor fun.

Really. If WoW had causal content like FF14 and a story that isn't bad. Lore doesn't need be as good but and not retcon every patch, I would never touched ff14. WoW combat and skills are miles ahead FF14... Though I enjoy FF14 dungeon design too.

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Originally Posted by SilverSkyway

Can still put time into the job any level. Making easier does not hurt the game. Elites do.
If you just do 1-2-3 and nothing else then you playing poorly. I'm not a pro nor am I good but even so, you should try and use the whole kit. But having 30+ buttons that you need be fast is not healthy nor fun.

Really. If WoW had causal content like FF14 and a story that isn't bad. Lore doesn't need be as good but and not retcon every patch, I would never touched ff14. WoW combat and skills are miles ahead FF14... Though I enjoy FF14 dungeon design too.

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"Elites" are a made up fantasy of your mind to cope with the fact that something isn't designed specifically for you. Instead of trying to ruin Dragoon for everyone who loves it, you can simply go play something else that is much easier, like the new Summoner which has a dearth of buttons to press, or healers who hit 2 buttons for over 70% of their casts in any encounter. You haven't even gotten Dragoon to 90, you have 0 idea what "hurts the game" nor what is "healthy" for it. It seems like you've charted the solution for yourself in your post though - you enjoy WoW's combat and skills more than XIV's, so simply go play that for its combat and then casually play XIV for the story at each expansion.

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Originally Posted by SilverSkyway

If you just do 1-2-3 and nothing else then you playing poorly.

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Yeah and? If that's all you can handle, by all means, play poorly, instead of trying to lower the ceiling and floor of every job to match your level. Seems like you've already made up your mind about wanting everything spoonfed to you though so there's little point in trying to convince you otherwise. If the current iteration of extremely easy jobs in FFXIV is too much for you, the only thing I can suggest is playing WoW again.

I still don't get why there's this ubiquitous notion that DRG is button bloated, when it's one of the jobs with the least amount of actions that have to be bound in the hotbars (see this post https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5925792).

If DRG is button bloated, then so are almost all jobs in the game (and in a sense they are, but this may only become apparent in 7.0).

To add to the discussion at hand, jobs should have both a low skill floor to help newcomers and a high skill ceiling to appeal to veterans or those wanting to master the job. Simplifying DRG may lower the floor, but it'll likely not increase the ceiling.

Therefore, I think it's in the best interest of those who love the job and those who want to try it or play it at a more casual level to ask for the job not to be simplified just for the sake of the latter, especially if we consider that DRG is not precisely the most complex job there is and in fact should have its ceiling increased.

If only. WoW doesn't have good casual, housing, story content.

Elitist which many posting in thread are will min-max if game was one button or hundred. Casuals want play a fun game they can zone out on, not do math.

You don't need to maintain peak mathematical efficiency at all times in order to clear content, different difficulty levels require different amounts, but never the actual 100%. And let's not confuse casual players with lazy players. A casual player can still enjoy a job or the game itself having a high level of execution to strive towards. A lazy player wants to remove all failure modes and turn the game into a visual novel.

"Casuals want to zone out"
Cool, we get it, you literally do not want to apply yourself at all. Feel free to keep not applying yourself, it doesn't make anyone an elitist because they don't hate the idea of having to actually try to achieve good results in this game. Go play something else, it's clearly not for you.

I might. Been thinking on that. Game is poo outside of msq.

Hope game fail actually. It already is. Be back to the 10 players.

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Originally Posted by SilverSkyway

I might. Been thinking on that. Game is poo outside of msq.

Hope game fail actually. It already is. Be back to the 10 players.

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I think they'll be just fine without you champ

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

"Casuals want to zone out"
Cool, we get it, you literally do not want to apply yourself at all. Feel free to keep not applying yourself, it doesn't make anyone an elitist because they don't hate the idea of having to actually try to achieve good results in this game. Go play something else, it's clearly not for you.

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I mean let’s not encourage the casuals to not apply themselves at all because that just leads to lazy play

Casual play should be 1-2-3 press your oGCD’s maybe drift a bit mess up some positionals, disconnect for safety and make some dumb mistakes like pressing oGCD’s in the wrong order, it should not be zone out completely and do whatever you want