Do people see this game as an MMO?

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If anything, party play should be encouraged.

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It...is? There's a ton of dungeons and trials, and I've met some really cool people doing so. There's a ton of people you can run into doing FATEs and quests. Just that it also gives you the tools to play entirely by yourself.

That's the beauty of giving players more ways to play: Not everyone is a social butterfly and would rather enjoy focusing on the story and adventuring instead of the social aspects.

As for is FFXIV considered a MMO, I pose a counterpoint: Who actually cares what it's labeled as? As long as it's fun, you can call it whatever you want.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Yeah, sure. But MMOs come with expectations. And I throw out another unpopular opinion. Solo only players are slowly eroding the entire foundation. Sure, that's certainly not the only reason why most content is brain-dead in terms of difficulty but it's certainly a part of it. The very underutilised overworld comes to mind. Can't have any real difficult encounters because then people would have to talk to one another. The horror. lol Eh, your sub. I still think you're playing an MMO wrong, though.

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You assume I'm a solo only player because I don't want to talk to YOU? The balls on ya mate. You're literally nobody so you'll excuse me if I don't much care if I play the game wrong according to you.

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Do people see this game as an MMO?

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Yes, I see it as one.

I have a question to ask the people who feel like this game or modern mmos has too many anti-social players or encourages anti-social behaviour.

What do you consider is social? Like, I guess from a scale from 1 to 5, (with 5 being "most social) where do expect people to be on that scale when you

-Party in the overworld for combat reasons? (fates, for example)

-Party in the overworld for other reasons (gathering, for example)

-Party for regular content in DF

-Party for High End content in DF

-Party for any kind of content in PF

-No party, in city/hub

-No party, in overworld

Also, going back to what I previously posted, how social are you at first in a party? Are you a greeter? Do you try to strike up a convo? Do you bring up a random topic? Maybe a joke or two?

I would really like to know because, quite frankly, I'm just eyerolling this as another "mountain out of a molehill" issue but I do like to give the benefit of trying to be in someone else's shoes. But do that, I have to know some specifics because otherwise, all I hear is someone yelling from the back "woe is me, things were better back in my days and it's not the nostalgia juice making me say that".

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

all I hear is someone yelling from the back "woe is me, things were better back in my days and it's not the nostalgia juice making me say that".

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I was actually in the process of replying to your questions and little survey until I read this bit. I don’t think I’ll bother now.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

I have a question to ask the people who feel like this game or modern mmos has too many anti-social players or encourages anti-social behaviour.

What do you consider is social? Like, I guess from a scale from 1 to 5, (with 5 being "most social) where do expect people to be on that scale when you

-Party in the overworld for combat reasons? (fates, for example)

-Party in the overworld for other reasons (gathering, for example)

-Party for regular content in DF

-Party for High End content in DF

-Party for any kind of content in PF

-No party, in city/hub

-No party, in overworld

Also, going back to what I previously posted, how social are you at first in a party? Are you a greeter? Do you try to strike up a convo? Do you bring up a random topic? Maybe a joke or two?

I would really like to know because, quite frankly, I'm just eyerolling this as another "mountain out of a molehill" issue but I do like to give the benefit of trying to be in someone else's shoes. But do that, I have to know some specifics because otherwise, all I hear is someone yelling from the back "woe is me, things were better back in my days and it's not the nostalgia juice making me say that".

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Dungeon finder is probably one of the worst things this game has. Everything is just a lobby as you wait.

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

I was actually in the process of replying to your questions and little survey until I read this bit. I don’t think I’ll bother now.

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You'll have to forgive me for expressing my skepticism regarding the "you ain't social enough" people with snark. It was cute the first time around but it feels now like we're discussing this for the tenth time and nobody really goes in-depth about what "social level" they expect from other people. I may sound like a broken record here but I've seen people come in an instance, say hello. Other people say hello. Come out of the instance and then claim that nobody was social. Or what about those who don't say a peep but then they'll tell someone they know that they're getting the impression that the game's anti-social. Can you really blame me for being annoyed?

So yes, despite my affront, I am the type to think someone's words through enough if they explain their reasons and even admit to being wrong. But until then, at least regarding this topic, I am going to keep my skeptic snark.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Dungeon finder is probably one of the worst things this game has. Everything is just a lobby as you wait.

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As opposed to the old waiting in city/open world lobbies for a party to form/invite you so you could stand in the same spot and grind for a couple hours on the same mobs?

The game is plenty social. I've made tons of friends. I've had a slap war with a person I have never talked to. For 4 years, if we see each other we slap each other and sprint away. Not a single word has ever been spoken between the two of us.
I play games with random people I meet in city states and end up talking with people long after the dungeon has ended. I've gathered items and traded them to sprouts in crafting guilds and had short convos about how to craft!

Those who say the game isn't social doesn't try to reach out to anyone. They want someone else to take the first step. It is the same as someone going to a party and standing in the corner, complaining that no one talked to them or danced with them.

Likely already been said in this thread since it's pretty long(ish). But! As someone that is pretty much constantly talking to the point it's too much for her own good, if you just start the conversation then I find a lot of people are happy to join. After I get the "o/" out of the way at the start of the dungeon, I'll try to comment on something in the dungeon and go from there.

Some people just need someone else to instigate! Be that person that starts it, and you'll find plenty of social things to get into. ^.^