The difference between WoW and FF14

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Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo

If they aren't liable, then they really have no reason to police the chat so adamantly.

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If the game environment is unpleasant, it hurts their bottom line. What matters to SE is dollars, not whether or not you feel stifled.

You haven't ruffled my feathers at all. Read my posts in a monotone if you must.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

If the game environment is unpleasant, it hurts their bottom line. What matters to SE is dollars, not whether or not you feel stifled.

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The flip side of that coin is that too much censorship can also lead to an unpleasant game environment, which could also lead to people leaving the game and therefor negatively impacting the SE wallet. I am not saying you are wrong necessarily, I'm saying that too much in either direction is a bad thing; and that too much censorship tends to be a really bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

You haven't ruffled my feathers at all. Read my posts in a monotone if you must.

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My mistake then.

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Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo

The flip side of that coin is that too much censorship can also lead to an unpleasant game environment, which could also lead to people leaving the game and therefor negatively impacting the SE wallet. I am not saying you are wrong necessarily, I'm saying that too much in either direction is a bad thing; and that too much censorship tends to be a really bad thing.

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Sure, but I've already addressed that. There's no evidence of "too much" outside of the forums, which naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. The in-game experience is what matters and I see little evidence that the TOS is having any discernible negative impact on that. The overall nature and quality of the chat isn't drastically different from any other game I've played, except as a consequence of how chat channels are structured, and some of those games are practically free-for-alls for one reason or another.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

Sure, but I've already addressed that. There's no evidence of "too much" outside of the forums, which naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. The in-game experience is what matters and I see little evidence that the TOS is having any discernible negative impact on that. The overall nature and quality of the chat isn't drastically different from any other game I've played, except as a consequence of how chat channels are structured, and some of those games are practically free-for-alls for one reason or another.

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Maybe this is your experience, however, your experience is not everyone else's experience. I think if it was such an isolated issue I wouldn't be reading it on the forums every day and hearing about it in-game as often as I do.

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Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo

The flip side of that coin is that too much censorship can also lead to an unpleasant game environment, which could also lead to people leaving the game and therefor negatively impacting the SE wallet.

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This.
Currently they damage their own game by giving in to the crybabies and the report abuse.

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Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo

Maybe this is your experience, however, your experience is not everyone else's experience. I think if it was such an isolated issue I wouldn't be reading it on the forums every day and hearing about it in-game as often as I do.

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Which is bad reasoning on your part. As I already explained, the forums naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. You also only get one carefully-presented side. Astonishingly, people tend to feel their actions were justified and frequently unabashedly lie even when they know they were in the wrong.

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Originally Posted by Saintly

This.
Currently they damage their own game by giving in to the crybabies and the report abuse.

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Getting reported is only an issue if your being abusive, I know of no one who got pulled before GMs without some kind of good reason.

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Originally Posted by Saintly

This.
Currently they damage their own game by giving in to the crybabies and the report abuse.

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Are they though? FFXIV is doing better than ever with the launch of Shadowbringers, whatever they are doing, it is working.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

Which is bad reasoning on your part. As I already explained, the forums naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. You also only get one carefully-presented side. Astonishingly, people tend to feel their actions were justified and frequently unabashedly lie even when they know they were in the wrong.

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I think you miss the point.
Some of us have already seen first hand how ridiculously easily you can get in trouble here.

As i said earlier, i already got a warning for the term "trash tier" cause it offended a special snowflake.
In any other game if someone reported someone over that the GM's would roll on the floor laughing at how touchy the said person is.

Report abuse/giving in to whiners is a problem in this game no matter how much some people want to decline that.
The question is if SE gonna notice that before or later the damage is done to the games reputation.

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Originally Posted by Saintly

I think you miss the point.
Some of us have already seen first hand how ridiculously easily you can get in trouble here.

As i said earlier, i already got a warning for the term "trash tier" cause it offended a special snowflake.
In any other game if someone reported someone over that the GM's would roll on the floor laughing at how touchy the said person is.

Report abuse/giving in to whiners is a problem in this game no matter how much some people want to decline that.
The question is if SE gonna notice that before or later the damage is done to the games reputation.

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You can't even express yourself without referring to other players disparagingly. I can see why you'd have a problem.