It's funny how when a bunch of people positively advocate for something in North America, there is always a little knee-jerk reaction against it.
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03-27-2019, 01:15 PMniteypants
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03-27-2019, 01:18 PMstormygabeHonestly, I feel like people like that take the few who are actually being caustic and inflate them to include the entire group. They kinda sound like those people who, as an example, accuse someone of being overly sensitive when they try applying a certain type of critique to a certain type of entertainment. I also think it's interesting considering a vast majority of people asking for a stop to the gender locks are doing so in an amicable way. But what can ya do... I guess we're all just a bunch of crybaby SJW whiners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica
Keep calling for gender unlocks folks! We won't get them without trying! -
03-27-2019, 01:37 PMreivaxe
As for the topic, I agree. It makes the most sense to do things this way when you think about how things are...
It feels like people have gone into such a tizzy they have forgotten basic reading comprehension.
I'm gonna disregard this foolish sexism bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelitus
They have said several times that with their current work flow this ... is it. This is as many races they can handle and still get everything done as fast as they have been. A lot of work goes into not only design and development of a race but also going back and readjusting all gear they can use to fit them ... and it doesn't stop there. They also have to factor in all future gear and animations and such seeing as everything going forward has to have support for that race to. The game is much bigger than it was when it became ARR, as things are added it becomes much harder to support the added strain of introducing new races.
So no, them politely saying they will "look at feed back" doesn't change that fact. They may never say NO out right but that doesn't mean you're gonna see them pop up in 6.0 or ever really.
I personally don't really foresee them changing it. They have had it hard getting ready for this new Expansion and I feel it shows in the game. -
03-27-2019, 01:52 PMTsumdereThey can come into the positive threads and be negative like "unsub lol" and "male bunnies gross and don't follow lore", but we can't touch their threads. No no no. Can't have that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica
On topic though, I disagree. I respect the work it takes to make a new race and do not expect the other genders any time soon, but I would like to see them. -
03-27-2019, 01:58 PMgrinkdaboyit's because they feel like the sunken cost fallacy they've integrated into their feelings toward the game are being attacked and need to be defended. see: blizzard bootlickers when bfa launched and it was just a big dumpster fireQuote:
Originally Posted by niteypants
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03-27-2019, 02:09 PMLeomoonHow is making gender locked races sexist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelitus
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03-27-2019, 02:15 PMHalivelThis is true. Still, it does not forbid people to ask them about this and maybe see the change in future. In polite way without weird arguments, of course (quite small amount of people overreact in their request anyway).Quote:
Originally Posted by reivaxe
Back in start of 4.0 some my acquaintances talked about possible implementing of Viera and I personally was like "uhm no, too much work and the lore is quite against" and it was not only my opinion and well... here we are. Vieras were a thing for few years, this is a result. If implementing missing genders going to be a thing for a long time too - they really can reconsider it. The problem in this case will be resources... adding new race now for 5.0 is hard already (8000+ armor items). In 6.0 and later it's going to be only worse, so they should be absolutely sure that it's worth (which most likely will be worth in case with Vieras, but I can't say anything about Ronso. I would like to create female alt cause I usually play beast races in games, but well, it's me). -
03-27-2019, 02:26 PMSennIn my opinion, they should get started on making male viera and female hrothgar as soon as they can for this very reason. It's not because I'm impatient. I'm actually a pretty patient guy. However, their workload will only get worse the more gear comes out. I think in this stage, they are looking at feedback and considering whether to implement these two genders. Perhaps I'm going to sound optimistic, but I'm going to guess their response to unlocking the genders will be affirmative, even if they won't officially announce it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halivel
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03-27-2019, 02:38 PMLittleChickenNuggetWhen you have one group screaming loudly and making a scene, they tend to drown out the rest of them. You always notice and remember the loud ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica
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03-27-2019, 02:49 PMAlucard135Here's an example of a civil one that drownedQuote:
Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mmurise-thread.