Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

Vocal minority are complaining. The vast vast majority will not care 1 bit.



This is SE's game, as players we have the right to stop paying. We do not have the right to try to force them to change it into what the SJWs want.

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Originally Posted by Twinsoul

Lots of gratitude to the trolls for helping to keep this thread alive. SE made big a mistake on this one and I really hope they see these threads.

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Interesting take on how people that don't agree with you somehow makes them trolls. Don't kid yourself, hundreds of threads will be posted about this same topic so we all know they will eventually see the feedback. It's fine to voice your concerns, but labeling people who don't agree with you as trolls is pretty immature.

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Originally Posted by Selova

Interesting take on how people that don't agree with you somehow makes them trolls. Don't kid yourself, hundreds of threads will be posted about this same topic so we all know they will eventually see the feedback. It's fine to voice your concerns, but labeling people who don't agree with you as trolls is pretty immature.

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You're assuming they're calling people who don't agree "trolls". There are plenty of people in this thread who are just here to cause trouble, not just disagreeing.

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Originally Posted by Xilibrius

SE is smart they held back on the gender announcement from the na/eu fanfests to avoid a diablo immortal reaction from the crowd. better to wait for the jp fanfest where most of the audience doesnt care about bunny boys.

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I wish companies would just read their audience a lot better than haphazardly going into terrible announcements and wondering why people are mad.

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Originally Posted by purgatori

/My future Viera self waves bye bye.

On a more serious note, I am personally, and selfishly happy that there doesn't appear to be any male Viera incoming. I always gravitate towards playable races in games that only consist of female members (e.g., Asari from ME). But if I step back from selfish mode a little bit, I can see how including male Viera would have resulted in a higher number of happy players overall, since I assume that I am in the tiny minority for whom having male Viera would actually make us less happy---and even then, it's the kind of less happy that we could probably live with.

That's really the most sympathy that anyone who is upset over this is going to get from me, though, as I just can't relate/empathise.

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I'm actually fairly happy they are as they've always been too.
All these upset people seem to be upset that something that never existed outside their own imagination of what it might have been didn't materialize.

Even the concept art matching the female viera is not even remotely close to what all these complaint threads are claiming it would have been

And we already have the ability to make diminutive males in miqote and midlander and even elezen can have those features in a taller race
And we already have the ability to make super muscular women with roegadyn and Highlander.

And lalafel you can't even tell if it's male or female unless you know the animation differences if androgenous is the goal

The claims of needing to fill a gap are just aren't true outside the people that openly just say they want a character that looks like it's from underage hentai

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Vocal minority are complaining. The vast vast majority will not care 1 bit.



This is SE's game, as players we have the right to stop paying. We do not have the right to try to force them to change it into what the SJWs want.

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Not everyone who disagrees with you is a social justice warrior. However, when people add their perspectives/biases to their arguments that doesn't necessarily mean their opinions are invalid. The majority has spoken that gender locks are a horrible decision-regardless of whether they prefer Hrothgar or Viera.

Good decision SE!

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Vocal minority are complaining. The vast vast majority will not care 1 bit.

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There's no way to know on the forums what the majority or minority opinions are. All you're going to see are individuals voicing their opinions.

It doesn't really matter if it's a minority, anyway. A large enough minority can still be a huge problem for a company that relies on keeping their customers satisfied.

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Originally Posted by Selova

Interesting take on how people that don't agree with you somehow makes them trolls.

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No, I wasn't addressing respectful disagreement. I was addressing the trolls. Look, see, you'll see them, if you look. But you have to look.

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Originally Posted by Twinsoul

There's no way to know on the forums what the majority or minority opinions are. All you're going to see are individuals voicing their opinions.

It doesn't really matter if it's a minority, anyway. A large enough minority can still be a huge problem for a company that relies on keeping their customers satisfied.



No, I wasn't addressing respectful disagreement. I was addressing the trolls. Look, see, you'll see them, if you look. But you have to look.

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What I've been seeing on these forums tonight is an absolute metric asston of over-reactive whiplash over a cosmetic choice, and people that are either:

A) just laughing at all the mayhem

B) disagreeing and trying to make it into an actual discussion.

The former may be a bit bad mannered, but it's not trolling.

the memes have been great thus far
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...rnkgo1_540.png