Thank you for the man-bunnies

Im still worried about when are they going to add clothes with bulges

While I'm not opposed to the outfit for guys being in game I don't think it suits them. If anything it looks more of a joke than anything. It doesn't seem to fit the male body at all, it looks like it was just slapped upon them "just because".

I'll end up getting it myself for whenever I want to have a laugh or two or annoy some friends with it. But that's all it will get from me. I'm happy for the guys who wanted this though. Looking forward to those rare occasions where someone combines this on a male character with something else to make it look amazing.

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Originally Posted by Mokkabron

Im still worried about when are they going to add clothes with bulges

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There already are a few pants that have a slight bulge, it's barely noticeable but it is there. I found that out by trying to get some good angles with gpose and I couldn't help but notice it and shrug at it.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Let me put it this way. Who is the most naked male character in the game? Godbert Manderville, who is 100% comic relief. Who probably is one of the most attractive male characters in the game if you asked women? Aymeric, who never shows up in anything than less than full armor. It's not as easy as just flip flopping what guys find attractive on women and say women find that attractive too.

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Discussing what men find attractive and what women find attractive is irrelevant. I'm not attracted to women at all, but do I have a problem with seeing female characters wearing skimpy clothing? I sure don't! They're enjoying themselves, and that's all that matters! Do I think less of female characters in skimpy glams? Nope!

If the bunny outfit isn't your cup of tea, that's great! Putting down people who do enjoy it is not so great.

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Originally Posted by kamenkuro

Every day we fall farther from God's light
I don't like slutglams on dudes. Makes me wish for a setting that lets me just poof people off my screen

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Originally Posted by VictorTheed

I don't see why any self respecting man would wanna wear attire that is clearly designed for females and yea I get it it's 2018 the modern world likes bitch men, as for me no Ty sir or ma'am.

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Originally Posted by Tint

i don't even see why any self respecting woman would wanna wear that bitchsuit...

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^^^Comments like these are the problem.

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Originally Posted by Kinazu

There already are a few pants that have a slight bulge, it's barely noticeable but it is there. I found that out by trying to get some good angles with gpose and I couldn't help but notice it and shrug at it.

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which ones?

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

I don't think guys mind showing skin. They just don't want to look like women or boys. They also don't want to look ridiculous. Conan is half-naked, but in a way that shows strength and masculinity.

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You're still missing my point. If a male player doesn't want their male character to show skin, that's perfectly fine. If a male player wants their character to only appear as masculine, there's nothing wrong with that either. The problem comes, when a male player is putting down another player for not having a masculine character. Not everyone wants their male character to be explicitly masculine, and that's ok too. If you're a guy wearing a bunny suit, it does not make you a "bitch man", nor does it suggest that you don't have any self respect.

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Originally Posted by Mokkabron

which ones?

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If I recall correctly both the Bohemian Trousers and the Strife Bags have them. Those are the only ones that I am pretty sure of. It's barely noticeable though.

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Originally Posted by Kinazu

If I recall correctly both the Bohemian Trousers and the Strife Bags have them. Those are the only ones that I am pretty sure of. It's barely noticeable though.

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well, roes need to have a big one but Im giving them a try

thanks

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

You're still missing my point. .

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Ah I didn't get that point, I thought it was just in general showing skin.

Mmm, I think that everyone should have the right to self-expression, and people should be forgiving to people who are outside the norm. But if you dress in an unmasculine matter, you do make sort of a statement that people may not like, and the reverse is true. This can be despite you honestly not making it intentionally. Like a woman may dislike dresses because they tangle up her legs, or they may despise them as a symbol of femininity and its limitations. You don't intend it in the first case, but in practice there is a lot of meaning in the act beyond self-expression into a commentary on roles. We do need that commentary, even if people don't accept it.

People really should be excellent to each other, but i think people do also need to realize that sometimes that it's also not just personal expression. Clothes do reflect values to a point. It's a rough thing.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

...people should be forgiving to people who are outside the norm.

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"Forgiving" is an interesting word choice.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Excuse me while I go put on my giant Roe fishnets and sashay around Limsa. >:^)

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When are we starting this parade? I'll be there with bells (or at least bows) on.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

But if you dress in an unmasculine matter, you do make sort of a statement that people may not like, and the reverse is true.

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If I'm wearing an item, the only statement I'm making is that I like that item. I don't have any deeper agenda and I really don't care what other people think about it; it does feel nice when people compliment my glamour, of but it's also hilarious when people tell me they hate my outfit, so really I'm winning either way.

My tastes do lean a bit towards items commonly deemed 'feminine', but then, modern fashion sense tends to consider anything pretty or with any embellishment at all feminine, and if gear design in this game were to follow those standards, female characters would have the exact same gear variety they do now, and male characters would get one pair of jeans and a couple of tee-shirts at the start of the game and never wear anything else (except maybe one of the suits, once in a while, but they would be obligated to complain the entire time they were wearing it because that's just The Done Thing, can't have people thinking you enjoy getting dressed up or they might question your masculinity).