Yoshi-P says discussions about FFXIV on Switch and Xbox One are "Positive"

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

It's none of your business what platform people game on, quit being an elitist. Stuff like this bugs the crap out of me, I have a PS4 and a Switch I don't go around acting like I'm some sort of member of a superior group they just have the games I enjoy and that's the end of it, if someone is having fun with their console who the heck cares if they are on PC or not?

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K, lets bring back ps3 support then.

Consoles are just cut down PCs marketed towards gamers. The lowest spec platform they bring in will be the new ball and chain dragging behind. I get they won't ever drop playstaition support for ffxiv but bringing in more platforms whose specs are not superior to the ps4 is a mistake. Is the switch and xbox one superior to the ps4? Are they at least on par even?

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

K, lets bring back ps3 support then.

Consoles are just cut down PCs marketed towards gamers. The lowest spec platform they bring in will be the new ball and chain dragging behind. I get they won't ever drop playstaition support for ffxiv but bringing in more platforms whose specs are not superior to the ps4 is a mistake. Is the switch and xbox one superior to the ps4? Are they at least on par even?

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Xbox One X
CPU Eight custom x86 cores clocked at 2.3GHz
GPU Integrated AMD graphics with 6 teraflops of performance
RAM 12GB GDDRS
Storage 1TB
Optical Drive 4K/HDR Blu-ray drive
4K Support
HDR Support

I don't know much about technical specs or what people run for this game but it's been introduced at the most powerful console to date, beating out the PS Pro

MS still want their own servers...
This discussion has not changed the many times SE has talked with them

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

K, lets bring back ps3 support then.

Consoles are just cut down PCs marketed towards gamers. The lowest spec platform they bring in will be the new ball and chain dragging behind. I get they won't ever drop playstaition support for ffxiv but bringing in more platforms whose specs are not superior to the ps4 is a mistake. Is the switch and xbox one superior to the ps4? Are they at least on par even?

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The PS3 is a dead platform that's not even being produced anymore, and there's PCs out there that run this game worse than the Switch would. Just being on a PC doesn't mean you instantly get a better experience than a console.

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Originally Posted by Maero

MS still want their own servers...
This discussion has not changed the many times SE has talked with them

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Perhaps it has it could be what Yoshi P meant by "positive"

If they switched to using a more modern engine I don't think the switch would perform badly (it runs 720p right?) but considering how SE is an "integrated" company like Sony I doubt it would happen. That would be the best bet I would think for that possibility though. I've been playing a bunch of other titles lately with more detailed graphics and they perform better than FF14 does. Honestly I think that would be a very low priority for them, I would imagine they would rather make a new MMO for these platforms than port an old one. Since Xbox runs windows at the most basic level it would be by far the easiest port to any other platform so from what I can tell that would just be down to them being able to come together on a deal between the companies.

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Originally Posted by Shouko

Xbox One X
CPU Eight custom x86 cores clocked at 2.3GHz
GPU Integrated AMD graphics with 6 teraflops of performance
RAM 12GB GDDRS
Storage 1TB
Optical Drive 4K/HDR Blu-ray drive
4K Support
HDR Support

I don't know much about technical specs or what people run for this game but it's been introduced at the most powerful console to date, beating out the PS Pro

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Marketing and reality are often two different things. The reviews I'm reading are saying despite the specs being higher performance wise it's on par with the ps4 pro sans VR support. And should the game get xbox support will it only be the xbox one x or will it be the standard xbox one that gets supported?

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

The PS3 is a dead platform that's not even being produced anymore, and there's PCs out there that run this game worse than the Switch would. Just being on a PC doesn't mean you instantly get a better experience than a console.

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Sure I could dust off my old workhorse PC from the turn of the century and barely run the game if at all. Whats that got to do with anything really though? Unlike a console like the "dead" ps3 this game was originally designed to work on, a PC can be upgraded from barely running to outperforming any console. Whereas with a console you have to replace the whole unit and wait for the manufacturer to design and produce the upgrade.

By saddling up to multiple console platforms SE is chaining its ability to upgrade the game itself to the development cycle of all the console manufacturers involved and to the capabilities of the lowest spec console made.

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

By saddling up to multiple console platforms SE is chaining its ability to upgrade the game itself to the development cycle of all the console manufacturers involved and to the capabilities of the lowest spec console made.

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Not really, there's not much you can do to upgrade low spec laptops that barely run the game right now, again like I said just because someone is on a PC doesn't mean they will magically get better performance. Its not just consoles holding the PC back they are never going to tune the game exclusively for high end PCs even if the PS4 wasn't a part of the equation.

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Originally Posted by enthauptet

If they switched to using a more modern engine I don't think the switch would perform badly (it runs 720p right?) but considering how SE is an "integrated" company like Sony I doubt it would happen. That would be the best bet I would think for that possibility though. I've been playing a bunch of other titles lately with more detailed graphics and they perform better than FF14 does. Honestly I think that would be a very low priority for them, I would imagine they would rather make a new MMO for these platforms than port an old one. Since Xbox runs windows at the most basic level it would be by far the easiest port to any other platform so from what I can tell that would just be down to them being able to come together on a deal between the companies.

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Yeah I imagine it would run at 720p with 30fps lock on Switch just fine, while still having better load times and slightly better graphics than PS3

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Not really, there's not much you can do to upgrade low spec laptops that barely run the game right now, again like I said just because someone is on a PC doesn't mean they will magically get better performance. Its not just consoles holding the PC back they are never going to tune the game exclusively for high end PCs even if the PS4 wasn't a part of the equation.



Yeah I imagine it would run at 720p with 30fps lock on Switch just fine, while still having better load times and slightly better graphics than PS3

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*smh*
Laptops like consoles are cutdown PCs and is why I told people earlier to go desktop and not laptop. Desktops are also a fair bit cheaper than the equivalent laptop.

And PC only games also never fine tune their games only for the bleeding edge, they do make it an option though. And it is the consoles holding them back. PCs can be upgraded at will, consoles only when the manufacturer builds it.

Switch play at 30fps and 720p? That's pure awesomesauce, 20+ years ago -_- *sigh*

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

*smh*
Laptops like consoles are cutdown PCs and is why I told people earlier to go desktop and not laptop. Desktops are also a fair bit cheaper than the equivalent laptop.

And PC only games also never fine tune their games only for the bleeding edge, they do make it an option though. And it is the consoles holding them back. PCs can be upgraded at will, consoles only when the manufacturer builds it.

Switch play at 30fps and 720p? That's pure awesomesauce, 20+ years ago -_- *sigh*

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Again what you tell people to buy and what reality is are two different things, people have laptops many of which are much weaker than PS4s to play this game on and that's not going to magically change because you tell people to get a desktop and the dev team still has to keep those into account. Hardware elitism is silly.

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Again what you tell people to buy and what reality is are two different things, people have laptops many of which are much weaker than PS4s to play this game on and that's not going to magically change because you tell people to get a desktop and the dev team still has to keep those into account. Hardware elitism is silly.

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Lol It isn't "hardware elitism" its cold hard reality. Or are you going to tell me PS3 limitations was never a thing? As far as people with laptops weaker than the PS4, yes the devs can leave them behind and will. More powerful laptops and desktop options are available to them and for prices no worse than what they forced ps3 holdouts to shell out. Even PC only mmos force their users to upgrade from time to time when they want to push the games capabilities.