100% Lvl 70 1 Star Rotation and Macro

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Originally Posted by Vicci

But if tricks actually hit on a good you'll loose great strides at byregots.
You could do 2 separate macros depending on the situation after Innovation.

Ahh btw why everyone is so fixed to prudent touch? Not even 10 of them to reach 11 stacks? yeah because it eats CP like a Lamborghini LM 002.
I'll stick with my old stuff for the new stuff, much less CP, melding more control. Muscle, PbP, Rapid Synthesis II, quality up and 1x Careful III at the end - done
4 hasty-fails allowed (90% feels much better than before)
If you're lazy just do 5x patient touch at 80% or do a precise one if its good condition.

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Prudent + Manip II = happiness. Prudent is also what makes my "no rng guaranteed HQ" macros work as well as they do. I hit the first macro button and go surf the web... when i hear the ding hit the second button and go back to surfing till its done. No rng, no muss, no fuss.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

He meant your Blessing is not under SH, Brow is 100% success as specialist.

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xD just notice i forget a SH1

fix it!

https://i.gyazo.com/46cd03c2f08a119b...88b025aa12.png

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Originally Posted by Vicci

But if tricks actually hit on a good you'll loose great strides at byregots.

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You're right. Good catch!

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Originally Posted by Vicci

Ahh btw why everyone is so fixed to prudent touch? Not even 10 of them to reach 11 stacks? yeah because it eats CP like a Lamborghini LM 002.
I'll stick with my old stuff for the new stuff, much less CP, melding more control. Muscle, PbP, Rapid Synthesis II, quality up and 1x Careful III at the end - done
4 hasty-fails allowed (90% feels much better than before)
If you're lazy just do 5x patient touch at 80% or do a precise one if its good condition.

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Prudent is not exactly a replacement for your HT or HT II. But it's a great replacement for Basic Touch. In case you haven't been using it much, BT has always been a big deal of our macros due to its 100% success rate with SH II. So the best macros in the past have always been using as many BT as possible to reduce RNG factor. If you can guarantee 100% HQ with just IQ8 using all BTs, it's always better to do so instead of using HTs/HT IIs even though HTs/HT IIs may allow you to go up to IQ10 or more in a rotation. With this in mind, Prudent, being only 3 CP more than a BT, is much more CP-efficient than BT, as it only consumes 5 durab, but remains 100% secure. At the end, the cost of durab recovery after a string of BTs is definitely much much higher than that of a string of PrudTs.

Rapid Syn II is a great skill to be used in manual crafting, but is absolutely terrible in macros. You'll just end up botching a good number of items.

5x Patient Touch will let you reach IQ11 if lucky. But it's unlikely. Also, with only 5 touches, your final quality will be much lower than somebody who used 10x PrudT or HT. Even though IQ11 will give a nice Byregot finisher, the final accumulated quality will be missing a huge chunk due to the missing of 5 touches.

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Originally Posted by Vicci

But if tricks actually hit on a good you'll loose great strides at byregots.
You could do 2 separate macros depending on the situation after Innovation.

Ahh btw why everyone is so fixed to prudent touch? Not even 10 of them to reach 11 stacks? yeah because it eats CP like a Lamborghini LM 002.
I'll stick with my old stuff for the new stuff, much less CP, melding more control. Muscle, PbP, Rapid Synthesis II, quality up and 1x Careful III at the end - done
4 hasty-fails allowed (90% feels much better than before)
If you're lazy just do 5x patient touch at 80% or do a precise one if its good condition.

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Thanks I fixed the macro. The solution is to flip Innovation and Great Strides. This means that you will loose innovation if you get a good/excellent... but you'll never eat a poor status..

Likewise though I'm not a big fan of 100% 1 star macros because they usually require food and they don't translate to 2+ star. None the less if you are making lots of one star items they are super helpful.

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Originally Posted by Katlyna

Thanks I fixed the macro. The solution is to flip Innovation and Great Strides.

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I might need to see your stats, because trying out your macro - I couldn't get it to work for me, without a lot of extra melds, and unfortunately as Vicci pointed out if Tricks of the trade does kick in - it would mean a loss of innovation which means not 100% guaranteed.

Here are my results (here i tried HQ seafood stew + HQ Commanding Craftsman's Tea +41 control melded - without ToT kicking in - it is then 100%):

http://i.imgur.com/ydOZvRK.jpg

The best I could come up with, to protect against the poor condition with tricks of the trade was the following, but it means max CP melds, HQ Tempura platter, HQ Cunning Craftsman's Tea and at least 15 control melded (safer to meld more), also 3 macros, so I don't much like it - but here it is anyway:

http://i.imgur.com/Uv9MPWV.jpg

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Originally Posted by Janga

I might need to see your stats, because trying out your macro - I couldn't get it to work for me, without a lot of extra melds, and unfortunately as Vicci pointed out if Tricks of the trade does kick in - it would mean a loss of innovation which means not 100% guaranteed

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I concur with your thoughts. Personally I suspect the best stastical rotation is actually going to include some RNG at the front using 2 or 3 patient touches and attempting to remove Innovation from the rotation (like you did in the second) in an to consistently hit 11 stacks. BTW your bottom rotation was very creative, hats off I'm impressed! This gives me some theories I'd like to explore

Much thanks for your post Janga. Your observe/focusedsynth shows we can get away with one less progress action (squeezing in another quality action). You lead me to something I wanted to make... which is a lazy no food one star macro. Note this macro requires 1224 Craftsman and 472 CP (current maximum with HQ i290 and max CP melds) or you can just use a NQ Tempura Platter with 429 CP. This an IMPERFECT lazy macro. It has around 90% HQ rate with 0 starting quality. I mention this macro because I highly suspect many of the 2*+ macros (which will not have 100% without large starting quality) will be based on having two starting Patient Touch... likewise manual rotations will likely recommend two Patient touch as your starting quality attempts.

OneStar 70 Durablity 90% HQ Macro - Required stats 1224 Craftsman and 472 CP
http://drive.google.com/uc?export=vi...jJmcVlNbmtyYzA

/ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>

/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/echo Macro #2 complete <se.14>

*Note does not have Byregot's Poor Protection

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Originally Posted by NJA

Following on from the above, on the basis of the simulator you can drop the Ing2 back to Ing1 if you meld just 7 points of control. Use can then run this rotation with HQ 70, max meld CP and purchased NQ Tempura.

http://i.imgur.com/iCnUmLq.jpg

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That is a really elegant NQ Tempura solution, hats off. I came up with something very close by using Observe/Focus touch to stutter step the first ComfortZone but after reviewing to see if someone else had posted such, I found yours which wins out by pushing slightly more progress and quality.

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Originally Posted by Katlyna

This an IMPERFECT lazy macro.

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The lazier the better - love it, but seriously, that's an interesting adaption.
You've now made me now wonder what could be done with NQ Tempura added.
I'll go and take a look.

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Originally Posted by NJA

Following on from the above, on the basis of the simulator you can drop the Ing2 back to Ing1 if you meld just 7 points of control. Use can then run this rotation with HQ 70, max meld CP and purchased NQ Tempura.

http://i.imgur.com/iCnUmLq.jpg

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A few possible improvements

Increased progress:
http://i.imgur.com/BTmueZL.png

Reduced progress/Increased quality/Reduced CP/1 step faster:
http://i.imgur.com/1CGG0zv.png

Reduced Progress/Reduced CP/1 step faster:
http://i.imgur.com/8RJrNIe.png

Sorry late so might look into it more tomorrow