Please nerf Death Palace floor 50 Boss!

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Originally Posted by Holy-chan

Also remember that a lot of people simply don't really have many friends, are in small free companies, are nervous about socializing (if going the party finder route), things of that nature. Besides (and more importantly), you're unlikely to have three people you know that can go with you specifically for floors 41-50 (or any other set of floors other than 1-10, or 51-60). That isn't a solution that universally works. Now, that was only a personal thought, and it was not my intention to derail so much, so please don't take it negatively. I believe in finding solutions to game flaws over shooting other people down by suggesting restrictive patcharounds that don't work for everyone.

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It's an MMO, people that can't handle basic social interactions (like asking how a boss work or explaining it if needed) are just hurting themselves. But they have a few options:

- Deal with the problem.

- Stick to solo content.

- Stop playing.

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Originally Posted by Holy-chan

You also mention not entering the duty finder/PUGs in that floor set. Many people (including you) suggest that people don't queue with randoms and instead go in a premade party. I have seen that sentence thrown around many times, about many subjects, and in many other discussion topics. But, telling people to "go with friends" is, in my opinion, generally poor advice. That sentence is thrown around as a fix to one person's problem, rather than a fix to a flawed game mechanic. The game mechanic is what needs fixed.

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Except... it is not a flawed game mechanic but a design-choice. PotD is very easy content, "one wipe and you're out" is a mechanic in there, that adds a certain thrill to the content and many people enjoy that. This certain death mechanic used to be a lot more popular decades ago, but its coming back - we're seeing more and more games adding mechanics like that.
When you enter PotD you're (hopefully) well aware of that mechanic and it will lead to more caution - the whole dungeon is build around this mechanic; most traps wouldnt even be a threat anymore without it. We dont need to soften and nerf this content just because people cant handle that mechanic - and yes, allowing a second chance is a nerf, because it removes a mechanic.

You know when this gets really frustrating btw? When you wipe on floor 190 with your friends to the boss there and have to start from floor 51 again... thats several hours down the drain, instead of the 40 minutes OP is crying about here... But I'm not complaining about it - not at all! PotD was more fun and thrilling that way - because we had to pay attention and really focus for once in this game because there was something on the line!

The whole "bohoo, I dont have friends and I dont want to make friends"-thing is a pretty bad excuse for nerfing content aswell - after 100 you cant progress PotD with pugs anymore. This is an MMO, its supposed to be played with other people - if you dont want to do that, you're limiting yourself here and if your access to the game gets limited in the progress, thats on you.
I dont want to sound rude, but this blatant refuse to socialise, get out their, make friends or at least acquaintances that you can share a common goal with, is whats hurting you the most.

By asking for nerfs so you can avoid social contacts even more, you're ruining the content for anyone who would like to challenge themself - either solo or within a group of friends.

Nerfs does not fix bad players only makes it so average and good players are bored to death and then can complain.
I guess perhaps it is good that floors above 100 you need pre-formed groups, lol

I love how some people in this game seem to think that making friends is somehow like winning the lottery. I understand that not everyone is sociable and some of us are better at it than others, but come on. I've played on at least 3 servers in my few years in this game and I've never had a problem making at least 1 or 2 friends wherever I go. And most of these friendships stem from joining random FC's. I primarily play solo too. I enjoy my privacy and if someone like me can manage to make it to floor 180 with two friends, then I don't think it's out of line for people to tell you to go make some friends. PotD is the most casual content we have right now. There is nothing wrong with it and it doesn't need to be changed.

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Originally Posted by bardaboo

Do you want player base to get even worse? ? Honestly. Just yell at stupid people until they unsub or improve

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Or how about interacting with other players in constructive ways instead of harassing way?

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

PotD definitely IS the cause, my roulette queues have been gradually getting worse with a very big consistency since they added floors 51-100 while nerfing floors 1-50.

Say what you will but this is not a coincidence.

Im on red alert mode whenever i see another player with kinna/padjal weapons joining roulettes.
And more often than not, my anticipation turns out to be right.

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Or we've been progressively moving towards a pre-expansion lull and the playerbase is shifting more towards inexperienced players who are still catching up to current content while the more experienced players are taking a break.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Or how about interacting with other players in constructive ways instead of harassing way?

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It doesn't matter whether you yell or throw constructive criticism at people with a bad attitude. They find both things equally annoying.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Or we've been progressively moving towards a pre-expansion lull and the playerbase is shifting more towards inexperienced players who are still catching up to current content while the more experienced players are taking a break.

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We do seem to be getting a bad quality of player in DF in general particularly tanks and healer (tanks not being able to get AOE hate but still doing large pulls)

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Originally Posted by SilkaN

It doesn't matter whether you yell or throw constructive criticism at people with a bad attitude. They find both things equally annoying.

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Yes, some people are going to take it poorly no matter what. But some people will respond better to something constructive and the only thing any of us has control over are ourselves and can still try to do things in a better way even if some people still won't be reached. :-p

'cause reasons.