I'm just going to reply this one more because I don't want to just repeat the same thing over and over and because I'm getting out of topic: the thread is about AiN and not about dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adire
At any rate, the issue is that "the little help" you mention isn't working: how many times can you see the AiN not requiring a tank? Exactly. Maybe a healer now and then, but a dps? I'm not sure but I haven't seen one in 2 years, occasionally on trial though.
Among the many issues about dungeons that I mentioned however there is one in particular that's also holding people back from doing the jobs they need: tanking is painfully annoying for some, to the point that they never touch it again because of the fear of being called names and stuff. I personally don't have this issue because I'm quite the bitter person and other bitter persons only make me laugh, but this can still cause people to never touch their tanking job ever again for the shock of simply being called "bad" in the most horrible ways for the simplest of mistakes: you can see some threads yourself over the forums of how people complain of entitled tanks. And sadly this has no fix: it's all on the community to fix itself.
At any rate, if you have the reason to re-run them and enjoy them, I'm sure many others enjoy it as much as you do. I don't, but others do and that's what's important. What's not fine is that however you put it, the issue remains: tanks are lacking, and queues can take a lot of time in few occasions. Sometimes not, but sometimes it's over 30 minutes. I'm just putting blame upon the dungeons and their lack of stimulating features, rather than the people themselves.
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10-03-2015, 11:01 AMVoltyblast
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10-03-2015, 11:18 AMAdireI'm going to say this one more time too then, as clearly as I can for you this time. I'm talking about AiN, not individual dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltyblast
AiN bonus is only gotten from roulettes, not from queuing for individual dungeons...I haven't been talking about queuing for specific dungeons this whole time, only talking about AiN and roulette, because AiN is tied into roulette.
AiN is working as intended. It does get people, such as myself, to tank rather than dps. The OP is proposing making it be for dps sometimes just because. This is a bad idea because it will lengthen dps queues greatly. Minus increasing the rewards a bit, what we have now is the best solution.
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10-03-2015, 11:48 AMAlahra
The only thing I'd like to see is for the algorithms to work a bit more accurately. I've queued for Healer Adventurer in Need numerous times since HW and ended up with a 10 minute or longer queue on a supposed average wait time of 5 minutes or less. It doesn't seem to respond quickly to changes in the pool of available roles, though it could be related to some other problem we can't see on the client end of things.
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10-03-2015, 12:42 PMRoegadyn_Bear
The system is fine as it is right now because it's decided by how many players are queuing into the dungeons with certain roles. It doesn't need any "shaking up" other than becoming more alluring to the role that's needed most, without making it too much of an advantage that it could be truly unfair to the roles not needed as much. Sorry it's inconvenient for whatever role you're playing that isn't chosen by the algorithm, but it's working as intended. That's really all I have to add to this echo chamber.
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10-03-2015, 01:01 PMSynestra
Current bonus is pretty much a joke and it does absolutely nothing to get more tanks in there(thats why its always Tanks), now if it would give like 20k+ GC seals and maybe 50-100k gil then i MIGHT do it everyday, even with those bonuses im not 100% sure i would still que for it.
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10-03-2015, 02:37 PMAlex_Lenderson
Please don't feed the trolls no one is this stupid.
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10-03-2015, 05:18 PMRoegadyn_BearYou have not been on the internet long, I see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson
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10-03-2015, 06:01 PMFelisThat is too overpowered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synestra
You know that the AiN bonus is not daily capped like the normal roulette bonus?
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10-03-2015, 06:36 PMNadirahI could live with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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10-04-2015, 12:09 AMWaeksyn
I posted earlier that the AiN bonus should be adjusted to include a reputation like reward, which at certain thresholds can be exchanged for Minions, Glamour gear and Mounts. MG&M are a powerful incentive. Thresholds would be set moderately high, perhaps coming every 100 - 200 completions.
This is similar to the tank mount reward (which only applies to tanking raids).
That bonus would be applied only to the roulettes that don't also provide the highest current tome. More incentives are not needed in the expert roulette. Because AiN is separate from the daily bonus, this would result in many people spamming the lower roulettes - those are the ones that have the really bad queue times.