Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

And really, while -I- personally don't care much about Ul'dah, the fact is that it's an MMO. If they were going to cause a game-wide lockdown of the city to player characters, they absolutely have to move the necessary things first (at the very least, the DoW and DoM guilds).

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No need to do a game-wide lockdown.

1) Warrior of Light is exiled from Ul'dah
2) Find some sympathizers that give a small quest to give you access to Ul'dah while making you unrecognizable to the crystal braves and the brass blades
3) get access to Ul'dah in a way that makes sense

The quest could involve you obtaining a disguise or glamour to help you get into the city when needed. Would have made more sense than "everyone in the city knows you're innocent" thing.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Would have made more sense than "everyone in the city knows you're innocent" thing.

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well the public also doesn't know anything other than you trashed the celebration. (and even that is a rumor) everything has been kept form the public swift and the pld trainer tell you that.

and also yes the all the guild masters (once you beat the class/job story lines) are on your side.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

well the public also doesn't know anything other than you trashed the celebration. (and even that is a rumor) everything has been kept form the public swift and the pld trainer tell you that.

and also yes the all the guild masters (once you beat the class/job story lines) are on your side.

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That doesn't make sense. If you're wanted by the local authorities (the brass blades) chances are the general public is aware of what went down at the palace or was told some sort of story of what went down at the palace. Wanted posters of you would be on the walls and I'm sure the guys at the Mythril Eye or whichever is Ul'dah's local newspaper would have something written on it. Not to mention that at least would give the act of clearing your name additional weight.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

No need to do a game-wide lockdown.

1) Warrior of Light is exiled from Ul'dah
2) Find some sympathizers that give a small quest to give you access to Ul'dah while making you unrecognizable to the crystal braves and the brass blades
3) get access to Ul'dah in a way that makes sense

The quest could involve you obtaining a disguise or glamour to help you get into the city when needed. Would have made more sense than "everyone in the city knows you're innocent" thing.

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Yeaaah no, I rather not deal with that every time I go to the city to deal with crafting stuff or start up new classes/jobs.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

1) Warrior of Light is exiled from Ul'dah
2) Agent of enquiry inspired disguise time!
3) Walk in through the front gates while guards look on in awe at the 'new you'.

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Fixed :D

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Yeaaah no, I rather not deal with that every time I go to the city to deal with crafting stuff or start up new classes/jobs.

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I'd make it a one-time thing. So when you finish The Parting Glass you wouldn't be able to enter Ul'dah. You'd get access to a sidequest titled "The Backdoor Lass" for the disguise/glamour to prevent recognition, and be able to enter/teleport into Ul'dah again. Just an idea.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

That doesn't make sense. If you're wanted by the local authorities (the brass blades) chances are the general public is aware of what went down at the palace or was told some sort of story of what went down at the palace. Wanted posters of you would be on the walls and I'm sure the guys at the Mythril Eye or whichever is Ul'dah's local newspaper would have something written on it. Not to mention that at least would give the act of clearing your name additional weight.

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there is a new npc in ul dah that is called garrulous gossipmonger (he is the one spreading rumors) saying that a adventurer (and a bloody famous one at that) tore down the fragrant chamber during the celebration and is also said to be a garlean spy sent to kill the sultana, momodi says folks around here carry on as if naught has happened, but deep down they know it's a lie.

swift says all has been withheld from the public all will seem normal...at least on the surface (going with what momodi said how everyone acts like things are normal) he also says he would like justice to be served but a civil war could be easily triggered and tear ul dah apart.


jenlyns says bad things have been said about you recently (rumors) but noone pays them heed,but then goes on to say if her grace were not convalescing from illness she would surely put an end to this madness. alas in her absence the monetarists are firmly in control.

this shows that noone even knows she died. it's all be kept top secret from everyone.

The helplessness of my PC was indeed aggravating, but the story elements have rarely been about how amazing our characters are; they're about everyone else. The way out characters affect the story is through gameplay.

That being said, it would be fun if they could script an event here and there for our characters to take an action, even if it's just on the order of a door exploding outward or an enemy gone flying, with a cut to the character shown in battle stance.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

That doesn't make sense. If you're wanted by the local authorities (the brass blades) chances are the general public is aware of what went down at the palace or was told some sort of story of what went down at the palace. Wanted posters of you would be on the walls and I'm sure the guys at the Mythril Eye or whichever is Ul'dah's local newspaper would have something written on it. Not to mention that at least would give the act of clearing your name additional weight.

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So much of the entire situation is unknown to the general public. Many of the ordinary city folk don't even know that the Sultana is dead -- that she's 'sick'. Although maybe she is, but that's another theory.

I don't think it's unthinkable that the majority of the people either don't know or are unwilling to believe viscous lies about the hero that's saved them countless times.

"The evac. This is just insulting. We run away like pansies after fighting primals, Garleans, dragons, and whatever else and we flee. I was hoping we would have a huge battle while we were evacuating with the Scions being party members. I wouldn't actually mind an escort type mission by protected Minfilia as we fight our way out." <---- 100% agree

Since the beginning our character who is worshipped by everyone looks useless and idiot in CSs /nod /nod /sit/ /run , woow so interesting.

When i was looking my character who was just on his chair while Nanamo was on the ground but damn i just wanted to kick his ass "wake up!" same when Raubahn fight alone, come on!!

I liked the story but not how it was told x.x and concerning our character passiveness i have this feeling since v1....our character should laugh, cry, protect, fight, jump, comfort he should just live! lol

At the end of the last patch when we use Louisoix's staff i was so happy "omg my character is acting!!!" and here at the end of the story before the 1st add on our character looks like so weak and passiv >.< why..