Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

Since all the "shut up and take my money" players started to throw their money at $E, this is how $E been developing new content:

step 1: Develop a feature
step 2: bring it to the marketing team to see what they can remove out of it and put in cash shop
step 3: ???
step 4: profit! (for $E)

We basically paying a sub not for a full game, yay.

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Originally Posted by FireHero

Now with golden sauce I hope they do not do the same cause ...

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Sorry, but I literally had to laugh out loud when I read this part of your post. How do you think any of this cash shop stuff happens? There's always people defending something, saying it's no big deal, just like you did here. Then they take another step, and there'll be people saying it's no big deal. Then another step and another - and there'll always be people saying no big deal, no big deal, because they don't see where everything is going. Don't get your hopes up that Golden Saucer will be unrelated to Cash Shop after opening the doors for them like this.


SE announce Cash Shop.
Person A: "What? We're already paying monthly, Cash Shop on top is double-dipping!"
Person B: "It's no big deal, just minions and mounts, it's just optional items I don't care about."

SE announce Standard vs. Gold Eternal Bond.
Person B: "What? Minions and mounts were fine, but I actually cared about Eternal Bond and the Chocobo you promised us, why do I have to pay extra for it now?"
Person C: "Stop whining, nobody is forcing you to pay it, businesses have to make money somehow."

SE announce Gold Saucer details.
Person C: "WTF why can't we enjoy the Gold Saucer in its entirety without paying extra? You've been teasing us with this feature for months, I've been looking forward to it forever!"
Person D: "LOL who cares, it doesn't affect gameplay anyway, just stupid minigames and fluff. I support SE getting all the money they can to keep developing this awesome game!"

SE announce Premium Raids.
Person D: "Oh god, you're allowing people to circumvent the weekly lockout of the high end raid for cash? How can you do this?"
Person E: "Boohoo, stop complaining, you pay more you get more, SE has to make money somehow."


They can do ANYTHING as long as there are enough people left to support it and pay for it.

They always wait until the last few days before revealing details like this, and then they go fully silent about it while people complain on the forums, we didn't know about the cash shop until like, was it a week before 2.4?

I see the inevitable F2P transition that every average WoW clone goes through is still well in effect. Can't wait for premium housing wards, premium Golden Saucer tickets, premium Triple Triad booster packs, premium airships, premium GC squad companions, premium FC alliances, premium FC primal summons, etc.

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Originally Posted by Roris

I see the inevitable F2P transition that every average WoW clone goes through is still well in effect. Can't wait for premium housing wards, premium Golden Saucer tickets, premium Triple Triad booster packs, premium airships, premium GC squad companions, premium FC alliances, premium FC primal summons, etc.

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What I'll find most hilarious of all is if this game really does go f2p, after all Yoshi's words about how he'd rather shut the entire game down than ever let it go f2p. I can only hope it doesn't go f2p, but this new trend of gating stuff behind cash shop and extra money doesn't bode well for the future, and is looking suspiciously like a f2p safety net.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

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I just want to note that it all started with the extra retainers. Otherwise, yes, that's exactly was has been happening. Some of us complaining about the double-dipping changes that have been happening and some other people defending and supporting SE (when it harms them too, but whatever).

And it will keep happening, from the looks of it.

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

I just want to note that it all started with the extra retainers. Otherwise, yes, that's exactly was has been happening. Some of us complaining about the double-dipping changes that have been happening and some other people defending and supporting SE (when it harms them too, but whatever).

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True, I forgot about those. I already opposed them back in the day, but you are completely correct, THAT was the start, not the cash shop itself.

not buying any of this flimsy slippery slope stuff. this is vanity stuff, like everything else in the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Roris

I see the inevitable F2P transition that every average WoW clone goes through is still well in effect. Can't wait for premium housing wards, premium Golden Saucer tickets, premium Triple Triad booster packs, premium airships, premium GC squad companions, premium FC alliances, premium FC primal summons, etc.

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You know what's the saddest thing? They probably implement all of that without going F2P, keeping that nasty double dipping practice.

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Originally Posted by jars

not buying any of this flimsy slippery slope stuff. this is vanity stuff, like everything else in the cash shop.

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Yeah, it comes off as miserly players complaining about a staff run vanity event because they want the event's rewards without paying.