T2 Enrage problem

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups,

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If you read my OP you would know that I am not talking about premade/static parties.

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Originally Posted by MACEenyo

If you read my OP you would know that I am not talking about premade/static parties.

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Then this isn't a problem. If you aren't using a pre-made or static party, start doing so if you don't like it.

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Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper

Also, you're ignoring the main gist of my point in response to you: You have absolutely no way of knowing the actual statistics of party comp being put together in the party finder. What's more, it is none of your business if groups choose to take one tank, two tanks, or 8 tanks. Just like it is none of your business if groups choose to take one WHM and one SCH, or 4 WHM and 3 SCH. If it were your business, you'd have access to the internal information that would provide accurate statistics on the subject, instead of numbers you just pulled out of your backside.

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It's not hard to open up Party Finder and see that most all Turn 2 parties are using this method. I would have said 100% but I understand that probably 5% still do it the right way.

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Also, yes it is my business. I play a PLD as my main class. My argument is for all the people that use PF exclusively to do content in this game. As it stands now, in Party Finder, for every 40 Tanks that clear Turn 2, 120 Healers are clearing it. That is a 1:3 ratio. There are not going to be enough Healers to heal the remaining tanks at the end of the day. THATS ALL I AM SAYING. If you are in a static, great. That has nothing to do with the issue I am addressing.

Also, I have almost every class leveled. So if your suggestion/solution is to level an alt well, sure it may work for people to get some experience. (As I did last night, I cleared Turn 2 with my il.64 WHM, I didn't get to loot the tank gear btw) It is however not a solution.

Why can't you just make your own party then if you feel so sternly about this?

Edit: wrong forum sorry.

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Originally Posted by MACEenyo

It's not hard to open up Party Finder and see that most all Turn 2 parties are using this method. I would have said 100% but I understand that probably 5% still do it the right way.

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And you're on the party finder on my realm, and everyone else's realms, too?

Wait...wait, you're not? Oh, okay. So in other words, you are looking at the party finder on your realm at specific times and deciding that this is how it is 100% of the time - not only on your realm, but on all realms.

What are statistics and how do they work?

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Originally Posted by MACEenyo

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Also, yes it is my business. I play a PLD as my main class. My argument is for all the people that use PF exclusively to do content in this game. As it stands now, in Party Finder, for every 40 Tanks that clear Turn 2, 120 Healers are clearing it. That is a 1:3 ratio. There are not going to be enough Healers to heal the remaining tanks at the end of the day. THATS ALL I AM SAYING. If you are in a static, great. That has nothing to do with the issue I am addressing.

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It's still not your business. It is still not your business if another party chooses not to take you. No one is obligated to take you to Coil - or anywhere else. If you can't get into a party finder group, make your own. Stop complaining on the forums and go out and do for yourself. There wasn't room for me in my FC's static, so you know what I did? I went out and got my own static. I didn't go to party finder and demand that people take me (granted, we didn't have party finder at the time, but I still would not have done it). I didn't post threads on the forums complaining that some people were playing in a way I didn't like and thus I wasn't able to raid with them (why you would want to raid with people who play in a way you don't like is beyond me). I went out, and I did for myself.

Go out, and do for yourself instead of worrying about what everyone else is doing, and complaining that people won't take you to bloody Coils.

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Also, I have almost every class leveled. So if your suggestion/solution is to level an alt well, sure it may work for people to get some experience. (As I did last night, I cleared Turn 2 with my il.64 WHM, I didn't get to loot the tank gear btw) It is however not a solution.

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Then you were running with jerks, dude. Stop running with jerks and your problems will be solved.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

Why can't you just make your own party then if you feel so sternly about this?

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Exaaaaaaactly.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

Why can't you just make your own party then if you feel so sternly about this?

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Try to understand please. What you just said is PRECISELY the problem. Every tank and his grandma is starting their own T2 Enrage party. Therefore, since Coil has a lock on it(once you clear you can not clear a 2nd time), THERE IS GOING TO INEVITABLY be a Healer shortage. This is my argument.

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Originally Posted by MACEenyo

Try to understand please. What you just said is PRECISELY the problem. Every tank and his grandma is starting their own T2 Enrage party. Therefore, since Coil has a lock on it(once you clear you can not clear a 2nd time), THERE IS GOING TO INEVITABLY be a Healer shortage. This is my argument.

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And your point is? No one is obligated to raid with you. No one is obligated to raid with you or anyone else. If this is a problem for you, make your own bloody group.

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Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper

Go out, and do for yourself instead of worrying about what everyone else is doing, and complaining that people won't take you to bloody Coils.

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I am not complaining that people will not "take me to bloody coils". I am not complaining at all. I am trying to make other people see the argument I am making. Its called debate.

Also, You have a reading comprehension problem. Please stop posting in the thread I created. Thanks.