Full STR WAR is nothing to write off.

http://i.imgur.com/6mESVTR.jpg

There you go 4.7k crit no Foe no Battle voice. Asc does have 4 stacks but thats only a 40% boost, so 3k with out it. Couldve easily been 5k+ with 20% from battle voiced Foe.

wtf lol... really?

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That's the thing. That 1,300 damage hit on Inner Beast just healed the guy who did it for 3,900hp. About half his health. That is why STR gearing is a great idea on WAR and only an OK idea for a PLD... maybe... if you have enough HP.

Remember when Yoshi said that people were playing WAR wrong? THIS is what he meant. People keep trying to play the WAR like a PLD and are stacking huge amounts of HP at the expense of making their Inner Beasts worthless. 1200-2000hp healed every 20 seconds is a drop in the ocean. 2,000 to 4200 up to 4 times a minute though? Now we're talking. Interestingly enough, Storm's Path actually puts up some decent numbers when you have 450+ STR as well.

More strength not only gives you bigger heals, but also can add around 2% physical mitigation as well.

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Yoshi also failed to realize how itemization works.

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http://i.imgur.com/6mESVTR.jpg

There you go 4.7k crit no Foe no Battle voice. Asc does have 4 stacks but thats only a 40% boost, so 3k with out it. Couldve easily been 5k+ with 20% from battle voiced Foe.

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So you hit about 1520~1600 crit Firega without all those buffs. Since 1k Inner Beast is possible outside of Coil and 4k Firega is not...well, that ends that.

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Yoshi also failed to realize how itemization works.

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Please expand on this, I'm interested.

Are you talking about how the Gryphonskin accessories can be melded to have more overall stats than the tanking gear?

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Please expand on this, I'm interested.

Are you talking about how the Gryphonskin accessories can be melded to have more overall stats than the tanking gear?

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Well, look at how loots drop in Coil. Maiming/Strikes accessories which are loaded on strength, can't be need rolled by Warrior. Seems weird, no? If he intended for WAR to load up on STR, why not let them loot on STR accessories or even make STR/VIT acc specific for Warrior?

So VIT accessories are not best for Warrior, who is a tanking class. STR accessories are not supposed to be given to Warrior, who gain more health from self heal due to damage scaling. What kind of sick joke is that? "Be STR to get more self heal. Oh by the way, you're not supposed to *need* this STR item over other STR classes or healers or magic classes."

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Yoshi also failed to realize how itemization works.



So you hit about 1520~1600 crit Firega without all those buffs. Since 1k Inner Beast is possible outside of Coil and 4k Firega is not...well, that ends that.

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Obviously u have no even been in T5... AS i have explained the damage is only 40%, 1k IB is only possible with Berzerk. If you knew how to do math Fire 3 (lol firega) without the buff is 3k and could easily been 3.6k with Bard.

Edit. I only posted the pic of a LS member cuz people dont believe 4k was possible. It is not only possible it is necessary for the most important fight in the game atm and that is that.

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Obviously u have no even been in T5... AS i have explained the damage is only 40%, 1k IB is only possible with Berzerk. If you knew how to do math Fire 3 (lol firega) without the buff is 3k and could easily been 3.6k with Bard.

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So you're saying you do 3k firega on normal targets. I'd really like to know how you're doing double my damage.

On the side; the last number I recall on Ascle was 2938 non-crit with the same conditions you have in that screenshot. What does that translate to? 4407 crit. So, again, I'd love to know how to you do 3k outside of T5.

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So you're saying you do 3k firega on normal targets. I'd really like to know how you're doing double my damage.

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I dont know cuz I dont play BLM. I'm only proving a point. Maybe I would start by learning what my skill is called?

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I dont know cuz I dont play BLM. I'm only proving a point.

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You proved that on a specific mob you can hit 3k non-crit Firega. What you failed to realize is that 1k Inner Beast is possible outside of Coil.

http://i.imgur.com/1cGD4Ow.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ilPmO35.jpg

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Well, look at how loots drop in Coil. Maiming/Strikes accessories which are loaded on strength, can't be need rolled by Warrior. Seems weird, no? If he intended for WAR to load up on STR, why not let them loot on STR accessories or even make STR/VIT acc specific for Warrior?

So VIT accessories are not best for Warrior, who is a tanking class. STR accessories are not supposed to be given to Warrior, who gain more health from self heal due to damage scaling. What kind of sick joke is that? "Be STR to get more self heal. Oh by the way, you're not supposed to *need* this STR item over other STR classes or healers or magic classes."

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As a lancer/dragon I have not been able to "need" the scale armor that is gla/mrd/pld/war/lnc/drg