30 days almost up and I still can't enter endgame due to droprate

Lol wtf? Just get relic.

Buy GC weapon and do relic quest. Yes GC weapon is enough for Titan HM also.

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Originally Posted by ilJumperMT

Lol wtf? Just get relic.

Buy GC weapon and do relic quest. Yes GC weapon is enough for Titan HM also.

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So much this.

I have absolutely no idea why anyone is wasting time trying to get Primal weapons... If they drop, great. If not, who cares?

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Originally Posted by Khalus

While Ifrit's sword is not necessary to continue and defeat Garuda {never got it either}, a PLDs weapon does have a larger impact on holding hate than may know. The upgrade from GC to Ifrit is negligible for sure, but the more damage a PLD does with their enmity attacks the better!

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Well obviously. I know more damage = more hate but dealing more damage is more important for dps than tanks. Especially against a single target. A tank should have little difficulty maintaining hate against a single target.

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Originally Posted by PoiPoiKuroi

Assuming 1/9 dropchance on any of the weapons, the probability to get minimum 1 drop is x=1-(8/9)^n where n is the number of kills and x is the probability:
n=1 > x~11%
n=3 > x~30%
n=6 > x~50%
n=10 > x~70%
n=20 > x~90 %
n=50 > x~99.7%
n=100 > There would be a 1 to 130000 for not getting a drop, which is still quite probable compared to winning the lottery.

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This probability doesn't take into account the percentage of players for each class and the chance of running into another player with the same class. There's much more paladins than warriors so paladins will generally have a harder time getting their sword because 60% of the time, they will be competing against another paladin.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Well obviously. I know more damage = more hate but dealing more damage is more important for dps than tanks. Especially against a single target. A tank should have little difficulty maintaining hate against a single target.

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Against a single target being the key word. You don't always get single targets though, and for times like that, you will want the better weapon of choice. The damage isn't really the kep piece it is the enmity increase we look for.


To OP, while it sucks for you, RNG is RNG. I got boots, ring and weapon in AK in a single run. I have seen more ifrits blades drop than any other weapon. You can keep grinding, like I intend to do myself for awhile. Or you can move on. Simple as that.

TLDR RNG is RNG.

Eh. Not really. Flash is sufficient if the dps attack the correct target.

Flash, do a few rotations, flash. Rinse and repeat. You don't need to switch targets. That's only needed when dps attack different targets.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Well obviously. I know more damage = more hate but dealing more damage is more important for dps than tanks. Especially against a single target. A tank should have little difficulty maintaining hate against a single target.

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Can't state your opinion without coming off as haughty on these forums either Lunar? He minmaxes from the sounds of it, but that's not what the OP is even about. Try stating facts/opinions without being a pompous ass.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

This probability doesn't take into account the percentage of players for each class and the chance of running into another player with the same class. There's much more paladins than warriors so paladins will generally have a harder time getting their sword because 60% of the time, they will be competing against another paladin.

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Its exactly what it is, the probabillity that it will drop. I accounted for nothing else.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Eh. Not really. Flash is sufficient if the dps attack the correct target.

Flash, do a few rotations, flash. Rinse and repeat. You don't need to switch targets. That's only needed when dps attack different targets.

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Try that in AK with geared people doing their runs for tomes.

I'm probably wrong but when we tried to go for a weapon, we figured it changed on an hourly basis.

We tested by clearing a fight twice in the same hour. We got the same weapon.

Then we waited for the next hour, then cleared the primal, we got a different weapon.

I mean it could be a coincidence, but it's something to consider.