#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Nothings going to give until enough players quit the game.

Sorry, but that's just the way business works. People pay, business is good. People stop paying, business make changes so they're willing to pay again.

At this point, no one is quitting. They're switching to other jobs at most.

Tired of healer design? Play tank. A tank not using their stance is a very sturdy DPS with healing and mitigation utility. If the amount of DPS a group of tanks can put out is sufficient to beat DPS checks, there is no reason to play anything else.

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Completely agree, as sad as it is. I'd have unsubbed a long time ago but I still hold so much love for the game (played since 1.0) - it's been my mmo home for a decade now, and I have roots with my houses (personal and FC, not one of those multi-home legacy jobbies) and the like. I'm essentially trapped to keep subbing if I ever want to play in the future so I don't lose my homes and progress, or I completely cut loose and stop.

I know it's just a house, but also, it's a house in FFXIV. That stuff is harder than savage!

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Nothings going to give until enough players quit the game..

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This isn't even remotely true. MNK gets reworked every expansion, are you saying that every MNK player unsubs and quits after one expansion?

If the job numbers drops low enough, they will take a look. It doesn't require people to unsub.

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Originally Posted by Aravell

This isn't even remotely true. MNK gets reworked every expansion, are you saying that every MNK player unsubs and quits after one expansion?

If the job numbers drops low enough, they will take a look. It doesn't require people to unsub.

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"AST is the least played healer in EW"
-> "Let's remove everything that attracts the current AST mains because it will surely bring non AST players to pick the job and stick with it !"
"AST is even less played now, how could this happen ?

I really really don't understand SE reasoning...

And yeah I know it's somewhat popular in savage (at least during week 1 it was), because the balance of the jobs is so bad people feel forced to pick it for the dps (even if it's not needed because the dps checks are laughable).

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Originally Posted by Sharawiwi

"AST is the least played healer in EW"
-> "Let's remove everything that attracts the current AST mains because it will surely bring non AST players to pick the job and stick with it !"
"AST is even less played now, how could this happen ?

I really really don't understand SE reasoning...

And yeah I know it's somewhat popular in savage (at least during week 1 it was), because the balance of the jobs is so bad people feel forced to pick it for the dps (even if it's not needed because the dps checks are laughable).

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I'm pretty sure AST has a higher play rate now not because it's more fun, but because it's still a straight up better WHM and now it no longer gives you carpal tunnel when played for long periods of time.

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Originally Posted by Aravell

I'm pretty sure AST has a higher play rate now not because it's more fun, but because it's still a straight up better WHM and now it no longer gives you carpal tunnel when played for long periods of time.

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Just checked, still the less played in savage healer, with at the very least a 10k players margin from the second less played healer, and this despite AST dealing a whopping 700+ more rdps than every other healer.
If you correct with this bias + the casualisation bias you mentioned, ie being a carbon copy of WHM but strictly better, it really seems we've lost a chunk of AST players, and this population will rapidly plummet the moment AST is nerfed.

Maybe I'm mistaken tho, I haven't done a full study about it (we need to hire a data scientist !!).

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Originally Posted by Sharawiwi

Just checked, still the less played in savage healer, with at the very least a 10k players margin from the second less played healer, and this despite AST dealing a whopping 700+ more rdps than every other healer.
If you correct with this bias + the casualisation bias you mentioned, ie being a carbon copy of WHM but strictly better, it really seems we've lost a chunk of AST players, and this population will rapidly plummet the moment AST is nerfed.

Maybe I'm mistaken tho, I haven't done a full study about it (we need to hire a data scientist !!).

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Huh, the highest damage healer in the game right now, not much harder to play than WHM, slowed down to the point where you can single weave and doesn't hurt your fingers when played for long periods anymore, but still the least played healer.

Turns out that, if you alienate parts of an already small playerbase, you might see it become smaller. Who knew? Certainly not the job design team!

Edit: I do seem to recall that there were quite a few people stating "Wow, AST looks great in DT, I'm definitely playing it!", wonder how many of them are still playing AST now?

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Originally Posted by Sharawiwi

"AST is even less played now, how could this happen ?

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It has second-most M4S clears, after SCH. I speculate this is because latter floor clears are from more skilled players and these play jobs for their strengths and AST has best dps and best healing.

Unsurprisingly jobs that truly suck like DRK are unpopular. And the most popular tank is not WAR, but PLD.

Lol if AST numbers goes up, that's probably more because ppl get to play their "WHM but star and card VFX" finally after so many years. Who knows :p

I'm going to say the same thing that everyone else tells me when I've said the exact same thing about Healers, Tanks, and DPS.
If you don't like it play something else.
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This isn't like other games or other FF games.

I've played FFXI where, just about every job was unique to playing FFXIV ARR where, most jobs were unique to now FFXIV DT where, very few jobs are unique.

SE has made it very clear these past years, less individual unique jobs and more jobs per role that are basically the same and the only uniqueness is what the skills are named.

I already play lots of other games and I have free time so I'm going to use it to pester the devs to make this one better until the servers shut down or they directly kick me in the forehead.