Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

It's not really based on skill if you think about it. Zerg the enemies as fast as you can. WHY must content be focused on speeding through it and luck? Come on SE... give us something hard. Ifrit, Moogle, and Garuda can still be hard with randoms sometimes and Hamlet is super easy. QUIT making everything a speed run!

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It is skill. Why don't you try to pull a 17min speedrun, I am pretty sure you couldn't pull it.

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Originally Posted by Req

What exactly is your definition of skill?

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It really comes down to the fact that not much "Skill" is required once the strategy is out and optimal setups are discovered. I just don't see the point in bypassing a good 3/4th of a dungeon just so you can get to/kill boss faster.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

It is skill. Why don't you try to pull a 17min speedrun, I am pretty sure you couldn't pull it.

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I don't believe it is a question of skill. Everything does require some form of skill. Only zerging content to me is simply not fun, just how I look at it. Alas, I have to play with the cards I am dealt with. So when I get to that stage, gotta get people beefed up and try my best to beat that time required.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

It really comes down to the fact that not much "Skill" is required once the strategy is out and optimal setups are discovered. I just don't see the point in bypassing a good 3/4th of a dungeon just so you can get to/kill boss faster.

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in AV/CC you have to kill 3/4 of a dungeon to get through next area and 5 chest....? I wonder if you ever speedrun before in the new dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

I don't believe it is a question of skill. Everything does require some form of skill. Only zerging content to me is simply not fun, just how I look at it. Alas, I have to play with the cards I am dealt with. So when I get to that stage, gotta get people beefed up and try my best to beat that time required.

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Oh i agree with you, i don't particularly enjoy zerging as well. I was just countering a statement that sounded very stupid to me.

And not a single dev. response.
Lame..

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Originally Posted by Sagagemini

And not a single dev. response.
Lame..

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This thread is certainly not worth a dev response. Specifically because they're in a full lose/lose situation. Whatever they say here will be met only with hathred and flames so regardless of what they're doing with all of this feedback, until they got some miraculous words to say here that can defacto contribute (i'm sure everyone would rage if they simply said 'we're working on it' because people always do that) they're keeping shut

Edit: Also the site on your signature is on maitenance :(

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Originally Posted by Skies

This thread is certainly not worth a dev response. Specifically because they're in a full lose/lose situation. Whatever they say here will be met only with hathred and flames so regardless of what they're doing with all of this feedback, until they got some miraculous words to say here that can defacto contribute (i'm sure everyone would rage if they simply said 'we're working on it' because people always do that) they're keeping shut

Edit: Also the site on your signature is on maitenance :(

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I disagree, if anything, it is a proper Dev response would calm most down. Even if people do rage, it is better to respond than not to respond. I rather be wrong than wrong "and" ignorant to my community. They promise better communication with us, it would be nice if they showed it by giving us a response to this and not vague statements like they have in the past.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

I disagree, if anything, it is a proper Dev response would calm most down. Even if people do rage, it is better to respond than not to respond. I rather be wrong than wrong "and" ignorant to my community. They promise better communication with us, it would be nice if they showed it by giving us a response to this and not vague statements like they have in the past.

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what the heck, dev promising communication with players doesn't mean they're gonna bow and give in to the players and start giving out epic lootz and kissing their feet once someone cry about low drop rate of something that is suppose to be rare.

and what happens if the respond they gave are not what YOU want to hear? whine rant rage cry again?

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Originally Posted by Eard

what the heck, dev promising communication with players doesn't mean they're gonna bow and give in to the players and start giving out epic lootz and kissing their feet once someone cry about low drop rate of something that is suppose to be rare.

and what happens if the respond they gave are not what YOU want to hear? whine rant rage cry again?

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every time they dont give the answer people want, people demand another answer more to their liking and the whining about no dev response continues

Yeah, would love Yoshi's personal response even if he decides to keep the quest line and his justification, so people would finally stop posting in this thread repeating the same thing lol.