Submersible Information Thread

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

Surveillance affects the rarity of the item you're collecting - there are different thresholds for the type of items a certain rating will bring (common, uncommon, rare, etc) - this is the stat you want to prioritize if you're looking for otters or like colossus slabs, kamacite.

Retreival just affects the amount of items you're bringing back.

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Thanks for clarifying. Is there a guide how much surveillance I need for certain items?

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

Thanks for clarifying. Is there a guide how much surveillance I need for certain items?

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135 130 Surveillance for Kamacite and everything else, 145 Surveillance for Abroader Otters.

I have looked all over, but I cannot find a solid answer on my own....
What would be a good to great end game 4 sub build? I currently have a CUWC and SSSS. I'd like to at least hit the otters and/or kamacite. What would be a good plan to make the parts for the later subs?
It's mostly me doing it, so I'd like to refrain from too many overlapping parts.

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Originally Posted by FalconPunchington

I have looked all over, but I cannot find a solid answer on my own....
What would be a good to great end game 4 sub build? I currently have a CUWC and SSSS. I'd like to at least hit the otters and/or kamacite. What would be a good plan to make the parts for the later subs?
It's mostly me doing it, so I'd like to refrain from too many overlapping parts.

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I'd suggest the CUSC build if you're trying to economize. (S = Shark) You can put it together from the parts you already have and it will be capable of bringing back both otters and kamacite.

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Originally Posted by Norri_Matora

135 Surveillance for Kamacite and everything else, 145 Surveillance for Abroader Otters.

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It is 130 Surveillance for Kamacite. I've personally confirmed this with the CCWC build as it's the Kamacite Farming build i use for 4 of my subs.

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i'm not sure i'm going to bother with trying for any kamacite. just got my 3rd otter to sell mmmm gillll lol

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Originally Posted by ErysNight

It is 130 Surveillance for Kamacite. I've personally confirmed this with the CCWC build as it's the Kamacite Farming build i use for 4 of my subs.

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Ah, fair enough. I guess I forgot the correct value since I haven't farmed it in a while. That makes things easier. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by AuricSeagard

I'd suggest the CUSC build if you're trying to economize. (S = Shark) You can put it together from the parts you already have and it will be capable of bringing back both otters and kamacite.

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Ok, so. I see that 130 surv is needed for kamacite and below and 145 for otters. However, just a few posts before said that CCWC (130 surv) is enough to get otters. Am I missing something?

As an answer to my own question. It seems that a fleet will be mostly CCXC (x=anything, really), so dynamic parts will not be a thing like in airships. Anything not that will have too low of retrieval or speed, so it will take forever or not get enough of anything to make the trip worth it, or both.
Is a fleet like this good?:

CCYC
CCWC
CCWC
CUWC

We finally managed to get an otter with a 170 surveillance sub with 105 favor. Now I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade our 3 other subs, because all of them have low stats and keep bringing back garbage that doesn't have much value, which makes sending them out pointless. Our second sub has Syldra-C-C-Shark, which nets us 130 retrieval, but it would need more surveillance.

Do I have to fix the submarines every time before I send them out? Even though they are only used once and have only a little bit worn out. The reason is that even if it is 99% good condition, the mission sometimes still says due to the condition the second roll will not happen. If I have to fix them every single time, then the consumption of the dark matter materials will be very high. Or is the unable to have the second roll due to the condition of the submarines completely RNG?