Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by AugustusSB

I didn't put that holy lance into my database, didn't think it would affect it, but i can recalculate with it included, will do it tomorrow though. still at work got out of a conference call where i got grilled to no end ha...oh man

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They mean the new i95 Allagan Spear.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps0a2f50c2.png

This is also assuming our stat weights are the same. Our stat weights should be different with the changes, although i doubt itll affect our BiS much (since we dont even have much options to begin with), but that small number change may be the difference between 1 slot being optimized.

This is BiS. Too lazy to name everything:
http://www.ariyala.com/ffxiv/gear.ht...123.4172697587

Ran both this set vs the set AugustusSB stated in Valkys Damage Returns calculator. Guess who comes on top? You forget how much that extra 1 WD makes an impact.

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Originally Posted by Dervy

This is BiS. Too lazy to name everything:
http://www.ariyala.com/ffxiv/gear.ht...123.4172697587

Ran both this set vs the set AugustusSB stated in Valkys Damage Returns calculator. Guess who comes on top? You forget how much that extra 1 WD makes an impact.

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Is the VIT stat correct in that? I ask because when I bring up Highlander, it says that my VIT should be 404...but the difference in VIT between Zenith and Allagan is 4 points, not 14 (my VIT is 390 right now, everything on the left is i90, so the only thing that improves VIT for me is the Spear...which again is only 4 points different)

If you're going for the bis gearset with allagan spear but is still currently using the relic+1, then the onion boots is better than the myth boots if we discount accuracy, which we will have an abundance of with the relic+1.

It'll save you some myth until you down t5 and rng your items.

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Originally Posted by rickyguo

If you're going for the bis gearset with allagan spear but is still currently using the relic+1, then the onion boots is better than the myth boots if we discount accuracy, which we will have an abundance of with the relic+1.

It'll save you some myth until you down t5 and rng your items.

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You overvalue the crit/det combo that CT boots have over myth's higher ilvl (thus more stats and has 3 points of strength). Myth should not be an issue if you are seriously raiding, and in 2.1 the cap rose to 450.

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Originally Posted by Ixsiehn

You overvalue the crit/det combo that CT boots have over myth's higher ilvl (thus more stats and has 3 points of strength). Myth should not be an issue if you are seriously raiding, and in 2.1 the cap rose to 450.

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18str 21 skill speed= 21.066
15str 19crit 9 det= 20.02

according to questionable weight provided in the thread

I misread the str difference as 2 instead of 3 but still it's close enough that I'm not sure spending the myth is worth it since you'll be replacing it with allagan, and myth could be used gearing alts or something.

You're essentially trading 9 det for 21 skill speed, while 21 skill speed is more dps than 9 det, I'm not sure if it's 495 myth worth.

To be fair, you also get 3 vitality tho.

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Originally Posted by rickyguo

18str 21 skill speed= 21.066
15str 19crit 9 det= 20.02

according to questionable weight provided in the thread

I misread the str difference as 2 instead of 3 but still it's close enough that I'm not sure spending the myth is worth it since you'll be replacing it with allagan, and myth could be used gearing alts or something.

You're essentially trading 9 det for 21 skill speed, while 21 skill speed is more dps than 9 det, I'm not sure if it's 495 myth worth.

To be fair, you also get 3 vitality tho.

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this also highly depends on if you are accuracy capped.

Not to mention, the values are weighted by strength, we arent sure what strength weights as DPS too, the difference might be alot larger than you think =p

Though, im more of a min-maxer, and i have experienced my fair share of wiping at 0.1% back in WoW, so i typically tend to prefer min-maxing wherever possible.

So I was somehow able to get on before maint was over for about 5min before I got 9k.

looks like Jump was boosted to 250 potency.

So I was bored during the maintenance and made an app to calculate BiS given weights, a minimum of accuracy and all the gear you feel like.

I put 472 accuracy, all ilvl90+ gear from Dragoon and the weights given by the OP, this is the best score found.

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Score: 628.348
Weapon: Allagan Spear
Gloves: Wyrm's Gauntlets
Helmet: Wyrm's Armet
Chest: Wyrm's Mail
Waist: Allagan Tassets Of Maiming
Pants: Allagan Trousers Of Maiming
Feet: Allagan Sollerets Of Maiming
Neck: Hero's Necklace Of Slaying
Earrings: Allagan Earrings Of Maiming
Wrists: Inferno Bangle Of Striking
Ring1: Vortex Ring Of Striking
Ring2: Allagan Ring Of Maiming

Weapon Damage: 47
Strength: 224
Vitality: 180
Critical: 82
Accuracy: 131
Skill Speed: 58
Determination: 129

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What you guys think about it? Also do you need a certain amount of SS to make a difference or any point counts? at the moment the app just sums any point so I would like to know, maybe I missed it somewhere.