Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

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Originally Posted by Nestama

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FFIX had a whooole lot more than that ;D The world was full of weird and wonderful things

http://pre10.deviantart.net/d6be/th/...tt-d2l2c8h.jpg

Oh, I was just listing characters who join your party, but you are right. FFIX's world was very diverse. Baku is a man-bat-pig of sorts, right?

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Originally Posted by savageink

Are you more pro-Viera or more of a pro-more options person? Some people just want more customization of the races we already have. I'm down for that as well if it's a choice between that or a new race.

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I'm pro-viera and pro-more character options. I did mention before that more character customization and viera don't necessarily need to both be implemented at the same time. I'll be very happy if we get viera in the future, and would be willing to wait for it.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

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I provide you one, only to be get ignored to contuinie this thread next page cause vieras:

Races in MMOs, and especially in FFXIV, are most times a non factor when it comes to story and gameplay, so the only really determining factor are the aesthetics. Again, this goes even more for FFXIV where origin is based for example per class starter zones instead of race starter zones and there are no racial bonuses or skills. I only mention this because you seem under the impression that this somehow even remotly comprable to other things which introduce other game concepts like TT or battle hall. Also your concept art argument does not make sense after how the whole AuRa thing turned out. Also the only concept art of viera are female which leads to my next point:

Now we have a abundance of Animal people with 99 % Human pyhsique and animal ears in the game, one recently introduced in the last expansion. And as it s common knowledge, and the team confirmed this, making a new race and implementing all this stuff is quite a workload, which ofc means other things getting the shaft.

Conclusion: If they gonna introduce a new race, something i have no personal desire whatsoever, they should make something that aesthetically (since thats the whole point of races in ff xiv) we dont have and appeal to people which are not catered by that what we already have instead of other *sarcasm* waifu race *sarcasm off*

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

Conclusion: If they gonna introduce a new race, something i have no personal desire whatsoever, they should make something that aesthetically (since thats the whole point of races in ff xiv) we dont have and appeal to people which are not catered by that what we already have instead of other *sarcasm* waifu race *sarcasm off*

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That's one view. An opposing view would be that they should create a race that aesthetically appeals to as many players as possible, so as to avoid wasting their time and resources. If only 5% of the player-base would roll a wolfman or a tigerman or a manbearpig, is it -worth- the time and resources used to create that race as a playable race? How does one quantify whether or not a race is successful anyways? Polls from before Heavensward launched didn't even show the Au Ra related option as being nearby as popular as Half-Breeds, Viera, or 3rd options for existing races. Square decided to go with Au Ra anyways, and while Au Ra females are immensely popular, their male counterparts are sorely underplayed.

Analyze that data above and the data you can gather from other playable races and their populations along the male and female divide and you begin to notice a trend; the majority of the playerbase seems to enjoy the small waifu females, and pretty-boy males. To say that female characters are dominated by the Midlander, Au Ra, and Miqo'te options would not be a fallacy, nor would it be a fallacy to say that for male characters the bulk fall into Miqo'te and Midlanders. That isn't to say other races don't have a healthy population among players, but its clear which are the popular races and why.

So which is it more profitable for Square to do? Create a beastman playable race that only 5% of the playerbase will go near? Or create Bunny Girl Waifus and their Pretty Boi Husbandos?

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Originally Posted by Vexander

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1. where i did say anthing remotly close to "beastman tribe", or wolfman? You should stop arguing with your self please if you quote me.

2. Your "high mathematical" calculation does not make sense what so ever, here is why:


- What data? data from 4 years ago? or data as in forum thread views? Or you mean data where people already playing the game voting about something like race which has a non impact a already playing player what so ever?


- Let say this actually basic made up facts are true, that what you write still dont make sense. This is like failing 101 data analyzing because, as i mention, we already HAVE races that appeal to this groups. So what impact for the popularity of the game who has already this type of character would been made with vieras, which would not look anything like the concept art? Also you ignoring totally that i mention here IF they gonna make a new race at all because i think this is not smart atm. for the game, they should not do viera because yes attracting a imagniry 5 % that does not already play the game because of lack of intressting races is far mor proftiable to pandering to significant imaginary population of this game that is gonna quit because there is not enoug waifu races in the game introduced pro expansion

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

Also the only concept art of viera are female which leads to my next point:

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Um... the concept art he listed in the very post you quoted has male viera in it you know?

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Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus

Um... the concept art he listed in the very post you quoted has male viera in it you know?

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oh my mistakes, doesnt change nothing at all for my post because as already stated they would nothing look like this as in aura concept art but thx!

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Originally Posted by Vexander

So which is it more profitable for Square to do? Create a beastman playable race that only 5% of the playerbase will go near? Or create Bunny Girl Waifus and their Pretty Boi Husbandos?

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Right, but what is the point of making another iteration of what we already have? It's a waste of time and money.

People would play it, but it would be the same people playing their cat/dragongirl waifu right now.

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

1. where i did say anthing remotly close to "beastman tribe", or wolfman? You should stop arguing with your self please if you quote me.

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You didn't say anything about it, nor did I ever say you did. Perhaps you should stop arguing with yourself? I was providing examples.

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

2. Your "high mathematical" calculation does not make sense what so ever, here is why:

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Or data from just logging into the game and walking around? Square certainly would have access to actual data and no doubt has the numbers, but one can easily see just from logging in which races are most played, and can then connect the dots, realize what they have in common, and realize why those races are more played than others.

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

This is like failing 101 data analyzing because, as i mention, we already HAVE races that appeal to this groups. So what impact for the popularity of the game who has already this type of character would been made with vieras, which would not look anything like the concept art? Also you ignoring totally that i mention here IF they gonna make a new race at all because i think this is not smart atm. for the game, they should not do viera because yes attracting a imagniry 5 % that does not already play the game because of lack of intressting divers races is far mor proftiable to pandering to significant imaginary population of this game that is gonna quit because there is not enoug waifu races in the game introduced pro expansion

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I think we can agree if people are going to quit this game it would be highly unlikely to be related to the selection of playable races. That said, the game's population is growing just fine without, 'Diverse,' races. Its more the gameplay than the races which attract players, so you're making an entirely different argument. Very few people are the sort who would go out and buy a game just because of its selection of playable races. I think we can also infer that if such had ever been SE's intent, then the polls regarding a new race from four years ago would've targeted players who WEREN'T playing the game rather than those who were.