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So what about FFXI and its diverse race options as well as its narrative?
Galka being more beastly in appearance (the tail helps) and Mithra being more cat-like in appearance.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

So what about FFXI and its diverse race options as well as its narrative?
Galka being more beastly in appearance (the tail helps) and Mithra being more cat-like in appearance.

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What about it? I played that game for a decade and have friends that followed to FFXIV. However more beastly i was happy with the better proportions of Roegadyn over Galka as well female variants. As for Miqo 'te vs that one Mithra short white hair 95% of the player base picked i have little care about. I enjoyed the Elvaan and Hyur models myself, though i am happier that once more the proportions are better this time around.

You have to recall, even then the developers knew less human like led to less ability to properly convey the narrative of FFXI. Diversity is never a bad thing but the uncanny valley is not a term i made up.

FFXI race concept art

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sGr_GKFUhi...econcept01.jpg

FFXI Galka concept

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...a_Concept3.jpg

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110125191810

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110125191659

FFXI Mithra concept

https://68.media.tumblr.com/a1b623ec...3q78o1_500.png

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...econcept10.png

FFXI Taru taru concept

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9...s968o1_500.png

I brought it up because you used GW2, WoW and Wildstar as examples, but left FFXI, which is a part of FF, out of the mix.
I'm also going to have to ask how this:

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None of those games had the quality of narrative that FXIV has. A narrative only highlighted by facial animations, cohesive visual representation of major characters to well scripted story elements, and over all setting (particularly in references to other FF titles) that help tie together three decades of of series very near & dear to me. I know what to expect from an FF title, it's why i pay a sub for game in a genre many claim is dead, why i stuck around through 1.0, why im willing to pay and play until the servers die again. What you call boring i want more of, subtle as it may be.

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Works as a response to why I find different flavours of humans boring.

I have to give this a "meh"... The tall skinny ones just look like they had awkward ears stapled to their heads. The short ones look a little better, but still kind of awkward. My main is a Miq, and if they had gone a little more feline in the face I wouldn't have been against it. The bunny ears would need more bunny like heads to feel less like they are wearing a costume. I guess I stand with the group saying if you are going to make a new race make it something different. ...and I do like the Sylvari or whatever they are called in GW2. Some of those look awesome.

I see a lot of people in this thread saying 'They're just Miq'ote with bunny ears'. I would hope not. I see the Viera as an opportunity to get a vastly different body shape in game. Something tall, statuesque, and curvaceous. A warrior woman that isn't gangly like the Elezen or too angular like the femRoe and that seems to be what a lot of other folks are asking for too. I'm not a fan of the female Miq in shape (one of the few races in the game I haven't played). So I hope that they add the Viera (both types for different clans) and I hope I finally get the chance to be the tall curvy lady I always wanted. Otherwise I'll just keep going femRoe and wishing she was just...a little less masculine.

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Originally Posted by Keridwyn

I see a lot of people in this thread saying 'They're just Miq'ote with bunny ears'. I would hope not. I see the Viera as an opportunity to get a vastly different body shape in game. Something tall, statuesque, and curvaceous. A warrior woman that isn't gangly like the Elezen or too angular like the femRoe and that seems to be what a lot of other folks are asking for too. I'm not a fan of the female Miq in shape (one of the few races in the game I haven't played). So I hope that they add the Viera (both types for different clans) and I hope I finally get the chance to be the tall curvy lady I always wanted. Otherwise I'll just keep going femRoe and wishing she was just...a little less masculine.

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Are you more pro-Viera or more of a pro-more options person? Some people just want more customization of the races we already have. I'm down for that as well if it's a choice between that or a new race.

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Originally Posted by savageink

Are you more pro-Viera or more of a pro-more options person? Some people just want more customization of the races we already have. I'm down for that as well if it's a choice between that or a new race.

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I'm pro-Viera. I'd rather see a diversity of races over just a ton of sliders and a very few. Unless we're talking face sliders because in that case yes please!

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I brought it up because you used GW2, WoW and Wildstar as examples, but left FFXI, which is a part of FF, out of the mix.
I'm also going to have to ask how this:

Works as a response to why I find different flavours of humans boring.

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It's not a response. It's a statement as to why "More of the same" would not be the tragedy some feel it is. What i pay for and continue playing the game for is the continued quality of the existing races and those of similar form in the telling of that narrative.

Some hate the Waifu look of female characters, that's fair it's what was brought over from FFXI. The teen edge to much from the guys side? Yeah sometimes ( i hate little kid main characters so it helps i get to look like an adult as a Highlander) i really hate some of the style we get (Scion quest reward gear looks like something my 13 would wear to school), however the options i have for my avatar are acceptable.

The series as a whole has never been one to give players the option of more bestial characters (eh.. i guess chocobo dungeon works right?). Expecting that option from them is basically playing a mmorpg when in the mood for a first person shooter. In the end finding yourself bored with the games races/ setting is an issue you have to contend with/ justify paying for.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

Try this Nestama/Lambdafish
http://i.imgur.com/eUlxQEN.jpg

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/

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I'm happy with XIV as is, and your solution is to send me to another game?? :confused:

Maybe you should try this: http://www.finalfantasyxii.com/home/


Also, did this post even have a point to it, because I'm failing to see how it is even relevant to anything that has been said

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Originally Posted by Alacran

The series as a whole has never been one to give players the option of more bestial characters (eh.. i guess chocobo dungeon works right?). Expecting that option from them is basically playing a mmorpg when in the mood for a first person shooter. In the end finding yourself bored with the games races/ setting is an issue you have to contend with/ justify paying for.

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To some extent. When it comes to main protagonists, it's usually exclusively human, but for party members... FFVI (Moogles and Yeti), FFVII (Red XIII), FFIX (Freya and I guess Quina maybe probably?), FFX (Kimahri and Aeons) and FFXI (been over this). If we include spin-offs as well, then Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (Bangaa, Nu Mou, Moogles, Seeq and Revgaji) and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (Yukes). With bestial races, or something that's more than just a human with animal bits glued on (take the Revgaji and Yukes, for example. Mostly the Yukes, since Cid from FFTA2 could arguably be compared to a Roegadyn) being playable... it makes the world feel a little more diverse and fantasy-like.

I'd also settle for true Beastman glamour and drop the entire thing against Viera, but that's probably going to be as likely as me winning the Cactpot.