What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

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Originally Posted by Haventale

I will forever be infuriated that we never got the female Au Ra design that they showed in the old concept art. Instead of amazing tall and stong looking female characters, we got what we have now. SE have been absolute cowards with their female player characters. Male Viera is the only thing they’ve done that made me genuinely surprised.

The reason I’m still female Au Ra is because in my opinion, they are still the most non-human/beastial looking race. I’m just sitting here hoping desperately that they don’t chicken out with female Hrothgar, and we get something that we actually want. If female Hrothgar actually give off similar vibes to that old female Au Ra concept art, I will accept the loss of hats and being locked into one hairstyle, because I am that desperate.

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Me and you both, sis/bro/sibling.

why does those ''about housing system lotery #'' sounds like a pyramid scheeme? so much text that feels it says nothing...

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Originally Posted by WhiteWitch

I don’t really understand this statement. Of course a game free to download would have a higher player base. Xd

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Oof you sadly ain't played no lost ark. They try to make it as far from free as possible.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

"Demanding" is exactly right, and the expectation that these races were "unfinished", is why I believe people are seeing SE, or Yoshida, appear resentful, or annoyed.

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This. They tried to set out the expectations from the get-go and where limitations would be. Players had unreasonable expectations and now they're getting mad and insulting the devs for those unreasonable expectations. I'd get resentful and annoyed, too if someone completely ignored the warnings I gave them.

This game won't die. FFXI still has players. It'll live forever.

It's just gonna dwindle slowly because this game is stagnant and boring.
Same boring events for example, Jesus. I want some 100% new. I'm sick of the SAME ones every year.
Ya'll can keep defending the game to death but it needs a change.
It's reached it's peak imho.

I'm just bidding my time until a new MMO comes out. Let's face it, there isn't anything out lmao.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

This game won't die. FFXI still has players. It'll live forever.

It's just gonna dwindle slowly because this game is stagnant and boring.
Same boring events for example, Jesus. I want some 100% new. I'm sick of the SAME ones every year.
Ya'll can keep defending the game to death but it needs a change.
It's reached it's peak imho.

I'm just bidding my time until a new MMO comes out. Let's face it, there isn't anything out lmao.

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It may go on for 10 more years, but it won't be popular outside of the RP and ERP crowd.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This. They tried to set out the expectations from the get-go and where limitations would be. Players had unreasonable expectations and now they're getting mad and insulting the devs for those unreasonable expectations. I'd get resentful and annoyed, too if someone completely ignored the warnings I gave them.

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I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it unreasonable necessarily. I can understand it from their point of view, but there are many, reasonable, criticisms about the treatment of these races that can be made.

For example, they said these races would receive hair from the start, there are quotes out there, saying "of course" they would receive hair - custom hair at that. Now Yoshida is apparently saying he told us these races wouldn't receive any hair at all. Almost as if adding hairs after three years is him doing viera and hrothgar players a favor. The fantasia issue with hrothgar was left for years, and then stealth "fixed" recently.

Speaking on this, I feel like island sanctuary is going to bring out the same sentiment in the community, where SE has already said to temper expectations, but there are many members of the community who believe it'll be the fix for housing, or that it will be a new instanced housing system. I can already imagine the outrage if and when it doesn't deliver on many players expectations.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Speaking on this, I feel like island sanctuary is going to bring out the same sentiment in the community, where SE has already said to temper expectations, but there are many members of the community who believe it'll be the fix for housing, or that it will be a new instanced housing system. I can already imagine the outrage if and when it doesn't deliver on many players expectations.

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I'm eagerly looking forward to the implosion. Yoshi said to temper expectations....while still not giving any real info on what the heck the feature will be. Its going to be glorious.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This. They tried to set out the expectations from the get-go and where limitations would be. Players had unreasonable expectations and now they're getting mad and insulting the devs for those unreasonable expectations. I'd get resentful and annoyed, too if someone completely ignored the warnings I gave them.

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Ah yes, how unreasonable we were for hearing them say they're open to feedback and that these races would have stuff added to them over time and feeling upset that those additions barely amount to anything. How utterly unreasonable we were for saying "Thank you for your hard work, we love this, can we please have more and perhaps better like all the other races you've made thus far have had?".

Totally unreasonable!

Square Exec: Haven't we made it clear to them we didn't want to add anything? Guh, just for that there won't be Male Viera. N-Not that we ever wanted to, we made that abundantly clear. Isn't that right Taro-san? ...Taro-san why are you putting rabbit ears on that male character? Stop that!

Edit: if that's the case, y'all need to stop begging for class changes too. How many times has Yoshida told you your class was fine? Suck it up, you got your answer, asking for anything further is unreasonable. Unreasonable, I say!!

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

"I realize you've tried to be straightforward with us about the difficulties of implementing X or Y. But I would like to show my support behind implementing X or Y"

Reasonable feedback and acknowledges what has been stated in the past while still asking for the possibility to be left open. But people aren't doing that. As Sturm pointed out, they're demanding, not asking.

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Jesus christ how much are you willing to white knight? Hello? We've been PATIENT FOR THREE YEARS. I'd like YOU to tell me which Hrothgar never shut up in the past 3 years and harassed the devs with unjustified behaviour, spammed their chats and didn't shut up in social media.

Goodness gracious, it's stuff like this that people wonder why Hrothgar are upset AFTER THREE YEARS.

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Originally Posted by Rokke

I'm eagerly looking forward to the implosion. Yoshi said to temper expectations....while still not giving any real info on what the heck the feature will be. Its going to be glorious.

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At this point I'm expecting the island (if it isn't just infinitely delayed from 'EW launch feature' to 'never') to be a pretty spot where you just watch minions run around. My expectations are rock bottom... I guess I can go lower, though. How about you go to the instance, it crashes, locks you out of your account, then steals your credit card info and installs crypto miners on your PC?