Petition: Don't allow two home points!

If nobody used a bus serves, buses wouldn't run. Jobs would be gone, I like to think of it like that.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I never said I find it enjoyable, it's part of the game, the experience. Also, here we go again,
>I wanna choco>they wanna teleport>I choco>They teleport>Takes me 10mins>They don't wanna wait 10mins>Kicks me>gets someone else.

You all say, "PLAY HOW YOU WANNA PLAY" but really, you guys are forcing me to play how I don't wanna play when I can play how I wanna play.

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So you want it forced upon everyone because you dont want to be a team player? You are quite the selfish person Rokien.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

If nobody used a bus serves, buses wouldn't run. Jobs would be gone, I like to think of it like that.

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Good thing people still uses buses (like people still use airships in game). Although, others with more resources like to travel more time-efficiently by driving/calling a taxi/hiring a personal driver/flying.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

If nobody used a bus serves, buses wouldn't run. Jobs would be gone, I like to think of it like that.

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except this is a virtual bus and would not shut down and no one would loose their jobs -.-

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Originally Posted by Jman

When I want to explore, then that's what I do. If there is an area I have not seen or experienced yet, then I'll go and do it. Now when I want to quickly return to town from an EXP party to join my ls for some raids - I'd like to have the prerogative to do so. At the end of the night when I've stayed up waaaaay too late having fun with friends in game, it'll be nice to just return to my Inn and not have to walk an extra few minutes just to log out. Being forced to traverse vast expanses of land in order to move on to my next "adventure" impedes "adventuring" more than advancing it. People will still use airships, people will still want to explore new zones and for those who do not - who are you to discredit them?

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That's part of the adventure, "set up camp" as I like to call it. You log out where you ended and make your way back the next day(whenever you log on next). Also You are playing an mmo, if you don't have an extra few minutes you shouldn't be playing one.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

If nobody used a bus serves, buses wouldn't run. Jobs would be gone, I like to think of it like that.

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Which jobs are we losing because of an additional homepoint?

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Originally Posted by Krausus

So you want it forced upon everyone because you dont want to be a team player? You are quite the selfish person Rokien.

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Or is it the opposite?

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Originally Posted by Rokien

If nobody used a bus serves, buses wouldn't run. Jobs would be gone, I like to think of it like that.

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Yes but if I walked wouldn't I have more to experience, more exploration (even if I know where I'm going).

If I walk in XIV does that mean my chocbo is out of a job ?

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That's part of the adventure, "set up camp" as I like to call it. You log out where you ended and make your way back the next day(whenever you log on next). Also You are playing an mmo, if you don't have an extra few minutes you shouldn't be playing one.

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It's not up to you who wishes to play an MMO. If SE didn't want people with less time playing FFXIV, they'd have no trouble alienating them via crappy game design like what you suggest. Considering they don't do such things with FFXIV, then I suggest you stop over-stepping your bounds.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That's part of the adventure, "set up camp" as I like to call it. You log out where you ended and make your way back the next day(whenever you log on next). Also You are playing an mmo, if you don't have an extra few minutes you shouldn't be playing one.

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Well "setting up camp" is all fine and dandy but in case you did not know logging out at an Inn gives rested exp bonus, something I'm sure you are also against. Now you might not want to take advantage of that, but I do.

Seeing the way you are supporting your argument here I'm beginning to feel I've wasted some of my precious "extra few minutes" which I should have spent in game or doing just about anything else.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Or is it the opposite?

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No its not.

A party is capped at 8 when one guy doesn't want to step up and do something that will benefit the team then that 1 guy is not a team player not the other 7..... I don't know who taught you morals or the way the world works but they did a poor job at it.

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Originally Posted by Jman

Well "setting up camp" is all fine and dandy but in case you did not know logging out at an Inn gives rested exp bonus, something I'm sure you are also against. Now you might not want to take advantage of that, but I do.

Seeing the way you are supporting your argument here I'm beginning to feel I've wasted some of my precious "extra few minutes" which I should have spent in game or doing just about anything else.

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Why yes, yes I am against rested exp. Leveling up(people agree the mass does) that leveling up is way too fast, no reason to make it faster.

Now that goes along with traveling. If you can quickly go places, you can essentially level up faster.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

No its not.

A party is capped at 8 when one guy doesn't want to step up and do something that will benefit the team then that 1 guy is not a team player not the other 7..... I don't know who taught you morals or the way the world works but they did a poor job at it.

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You don't know me very well do you.... lol

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Why yes, yes I am against rested exp. Leveling up(people agree the mass does) that leveling up is way too fast, no reason to make it faster.

Now that goes along with traveling. If you can quickly go places, you can essentially level up faster.

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No no, you are just against having fun !

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Why yes, yes I am against rested exp. Leveling up(people agree the mass does) that leveling up is way too fast, no reason to make it faster.

Now that goes along with traveling. If you can quickly go places, you can essentially level up faster.

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The masses? really? Can you link statistics? or is this an assumption? Forum posters =/= the masses

http://i.imgur.com/SwvAN.png

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Originally Posted by Krausus

The masses? really? Can you link statistics? or is this an assumption? Forum posters =/= the masses

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Leveling-Poll

I really hope you're a troll Rokien. From the bottom of my heart. I honestly hope that you are actually attempting to troll with some of the things you say to try and support your point-of-view. At least I can maybe respect that.

...because if not... it really saddens me to see how far humanity has fallen... and I may have to do something I am yet to do on these forums and add a name to my ignore list so I can, hopefully, turn a blind eye to this sadness.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Or is it the opposite?

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No, it's not the opposite. You want to play your own way that is fine, but given that there are alternatives to normal travel in the game, you will have to deal with the consequences of your decisions like a responsible human being. You are perfectly free to choose not to teleport or return to anywhere, but you need to know that not everyone you need to interact with will be willing to wait for you if someone who is ok with teleporting is available. You cannot force us to accept your point of views, just as we cannot force you to accept ours and we cannot force each other to accept our own.
Some people will be willing to wait for you, some will not, you will never get everyone to agree with you on these matters, hell it's hard enough getting people to agree on anything. You are right to rail against changes you don't like to something you enjoy, just as those who disagree with you are right to tell you what they think of your opinion.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I never said I find it enjoyable, it's part of the game, the experience. Also, here we go again,
>I wanna choco>they wanna teleport>I choco>They teleport>Takes me 10mins>They don't wanna wait 10mins>Kicks me>gets someone else.

You all say, "PLAY HOW YOU WANNA PLAY" but really, you guys are forcing me to play how I don't wanna play when I can play how I wanna play.

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How so? Nobody's forcing you to port around.

However, you are being inconsiderate to those who gather before you and have to wait on you to choco/airship to your destination.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

[img]http://i.imgur.com/SwvAN.png

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Wolfie you never bring anything to these forums.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Leveling-Poll

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Once again forum posters =/= the masses

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Originally Posted by Rokien

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Leveling-Poll

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WOW Rokien. A whole group of 290 people! Amazing! You've really outdone yourself!

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

http://i.imgur.com/SwvAN.png

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Brilliant. This needs to be on every page of Rokien's threads at least once... starting with this one.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I really hope you're a troll Rokien. From the bottom of my heart. I honestly hope that you are actually attempting to troll with some of the things you say to try and support your point-of-view. At least I can maybe respect that.

...because if not... it really saddens me to see how far humanity has fallen... and I may have to do something I am yet to do on these forums and add a name to my ignore list so I can, hopefully, turn a blind eye to this sadness.

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You would like that huh D: Sorry, but if you think I'm the bottom of humanity, you should get to know me in real life. This is what I think and feel, you have every right to put me on an ignore list, do it on game as well, it doesn't matter to me.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

You would like that huh D: Sorry, but if you think I'm the bottom of humanity, you should get to know me in real life. This is what I think and feel, you have every right to put me on an ignore list, do it on game as well, it doesn't matter to me.

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Crap... he's not a troll is he?...

Dude.. you suggested that the 7 other people in your party are selfish for not playing the way you want to and/or succumbing to your very personal wish.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Leveling-Poll

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Waits for Rokien to bump his own post...

Ya know, I've never seen Rokien on Sargatanas/Lindblum..

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Wolfie you never bring anything to these forums.

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That's hilarious coming from you.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Waits for Rokien to bump his own post...

Ya know, I've never seen Rokien on Sargatanas/Lindblum..

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Actually, now that I think about it... I've seen him around numerous times. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, he's the guy my LS and I play some sort of Simon Says prank with/on. Those are fun...


............................ crap... just got even more upset.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Actually, now that I think about it... I've seen him around numerous times. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, he's the guy my LS and I play some sort of Simon Says prank with/on. Those are fun...


............................ crap... just got even more upset.

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I wasn't going to say anything

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

http://i.imgur.com/SwvAN.png

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aaaaand with that I'm out! Don't forget to meet that quota!

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Spoiler: Jynx not happy until everyone is forced

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Yes me constantly saying that I'm ok with teleportation and anima means this....yup.

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and with that I'm done with this thread it's devolved into nothing but people acting like children. Rokien wont stop being a instigator and people wont stop falling right for it. It's hillarious how much attention a thread can get it you ham it up properly.

That isn't to say we haven't had some good discussion in this thread but it's overall devolved into bickering and people pleasuring themselves to trolling Rokien.

I have a sneaking suspicion in the future with the concept art we've seen, that we may be losing many aetheryte nodes that we currently have available to us. If this happens, we'll have to run/travel more than we do currently.

When/if this happens, I'm sure we'll have just as many people complaining that they want faster ways to travel, and more anima, or less anima costs, or something like that.

I could be wrong. I'm okay with two return points.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

http://i.imgur.com/SwvAN.png

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Let's keep this going.

Inn Homepoint + Homepoint = Very YES!
Such a pain when I set my HP out of town for an event then have to teleport home later when I forget my HP is still out in the middle of nowhere.

Hello Everyone!

Thank you all very much for posting your views on the merits of having the ability to set up two separate home points. There were some good points brought up on both sides of whether or not to keep it set this way. However as the thread has devolved into numerous personal attacks and unconstructive posts we will be shutting it down now. Thanks again to everyone who posted and have an excellent day!