PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

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Originally Posted by tehomegaking

Btw, for anyone saying you can do this in WoW and the GM's are onboard with it, you are talking out of your ass.... It did take blizzard some time to deal with this exploit, but actions were taken against win trading, though it is a hard situation to monitor.

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Ontop of this accounts were banned outright iirc.

I'd really stop using nonsense arguments like they don't care about pvp to justify cheating. It may take square some time to get around to the cheaters, but they do get around to them in the end. I'd expect an announcement such as the one above from square at some point in the future.

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This is for RANKED PVP. We don't have anything like this, lol.

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Originally Posted by Makado

I'd like to know how long it takes you to reach rank 40 without doing premades. It is not our fault that PvP is so backseat and ignored. If you want PvP gear and don't do win trades you in my opinion are just wasting an epic amount of time. Once they change it so you can rank up faster ( more exp hopefully) and do more types of PvP like front lines people won't do it anymore, or as much. Until then though...with current queues its just not feasible or reasonable to do normally.

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at the moment i play about 14 hours a day and get around 2000 pvp exp on a good day
I fully expect it will take another month of playing all day to reach rank 40. really sucks tbh.

If they did bans for this they would also need to ban all the people who did commendation farming as well. But in the end I think the number one reason people do this is to get the gear for glamour. I wouldn't worry about it for serious PvP players since you typically wont be running into groups doing this anyways. I did it for awhile yesterday, because I (eventually lol) want to glamour the gear. But I do hope they make PvP more interesting, because it is always fun to beat on each other!

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Originally Posted by Makado

If they did bans for this they would also need to ban all the people who did commendation farming as well. But in the end I think the number one reason people do this is to get the gear for glamour. I wouldn't worry about it for serious PvP players since you typically wont be running into groups doing this anyways. I did it for awhile yesterday, because I (eventually lol) want to glamour the gear. But I do hope they make PvP more interesting, because it is always fun to beat on each other!

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I run into ppl every day who i know wintraded their gear (Even have screenshots of some people organizing groups for it and admitting to it in chat), who proceed to kill me rapidly because I lack the high level gear that allows me to stay alive.

And if people were going into stuff together and trading commendations then yes that should have been considered an exploit too. If it was with random ppl and they just did well and got commendated, i don't see an isue with that.
But at least there the gear doesn't actually effect gameplay.

Yeah, the thing about that though is its again a lack of players causing that problem. If more people played then you would get matched with people your same rank who didn't have all their gear. Which is how its supposed to be. But again as of now the interest just isn't there so you get forced into high and low level situations that aren't fair to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

i don't understand how it works.

also square and most players don't care about pvp

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Build a group of 8 players and split the groups up in 2.
Make sure both groups are near each other in total rank. They cant be more then 9 ranks apart from each group. (Example:Rank140-149 or 131-40 for both groups)
Then make sure everyone on each required job and select duty finder at sametime and que in. It should take 1-10secs to que up with each other.
Then basically take turns winning from each other. If groups are 10 or more ranks far part it takes longer to que up. It will take 5mins to que up if your 10 away.

What happens is the game trys to match groups up by jobs first then by ranks and then trys to match each team thats qued by there ranks. Because they arent the same rank it takes longer to que up because SE has designed it to be a delay so groups can be matched correctly by there ranks. SE putting in matching ranks has actually created more of a bigger problem.

Now from the issue it isnt that big of a deal. There is far better things SE need to put there attention towards.

(How to fix the issue)
Removing matching ranks would remove pvp trading cus it be more random to enter a match with the other team and would improve actually entering a pvp match.

lol I didn't realize there was a delay if DF couldn't find anyone near your rank. That is absurdly stupid. How could anyone possibly think that was a good idea.

A better, non-idiotic solution would be to match up people regardless of rank and give increased xp to players from lower ranks. I believe the system already does this to an extent, but the bonus is extremely small.