Eye for an eye is garbage. A woefully underpowered ability that (even WITH trait backup) has a horribly long recast timer.
It's funny reading this thread and the other thread about making gil. On one hand you have people saying that they should not be forced to do content they don't want to do (i.e crafting) but turn around and demanded people to level other jobs/classes just to pickup some skills. Bottom line if you are picky about these things group with your own kind and don't use DF.
If it can be completed without the extra cross-class ability, then you don't need it. Are they useful? Yeah, but at the same time if the content can be done without it, then it's not needed (as need implies the content can't be done without the ability).
I'll get Swiftcast for my WHM, and other abilities for my other classes/jobs, because I like to try getting all the tools I can. But if I'm DFing a dungeon, then I don't feel like I must have that ability or I'm holding back the group. After all, if the group had these rules, they should've found someone who agreed with them and gone in as a pre-made group with everybody on the same page. If they don't do that, not my problem (if they make it my problem, I'll just heal some different group).
I do agree it's useful, but I don't hold to the idea that these abilities are absolutely necessary to have. But as someone who has plans to level everything on two characters... it doesn't really matter in the end. :I
People are entitled hipocrytes, nothing surprising there.
No gil at 50! -> go use a doh to make tons of money :D -> No i don't want to i shouldn't be forced to do something i don't like!
Go get and level up something you absolutely despise cuz i say so! -> No cuz i wanna play what i find fun not be forced to do stuff -> lol nope you littleshit do it or ur noobinferioruseless.
Seriously disgusting lol.
I say let people play the way they want. This is a GAME. Not a job. Seeing all these cross class requirement listings, is like looking at a damn resume. I totally understand and agree that certain cross class abilities come in handy for end game content, and as a BRD I will be pursuing my last cross class ability (B for B), but what I do not see the point in doing, is forcing others to play by your standards. Will I blame a WHM or SMN for not having Swiftcast? No, because at the end of the day it's their choice how they play their job not mine.
If you want to only group with people who have all these nifty cross class abilities, then do so. Because like everyone else, you have a choice to do whatever it is you want. Just try to be patient with the rest of the playerbase, and I don't know, show some humility and offer some help with useful information instead of bashing someone for not doing what YOU want them to do, and see if that doesn't change the game environment for you.
as a WHM I found it funny when someone yells "OMG you dont have swiftcast?, swifcast is a must!!!" and minutes before that person was just eating AOE's and such + dying to easy mechanics.
Swifcast is highly recommended to have as it can do things way more easier if someone makes a mistake... but its not a must.
First the job class, then there was the HP, then the weapon, now the gearscore...
It really is starting to become a resume. Next will be "Must have 3-5 Titan wins of experience."