PROVE: ONE HUGE REASON FFXIV FAIL - BATTLE SYSTEM

What really makes the battle system suck? From how it sounds you're complaining about the amorury system, not the battle system.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Lol... he said drastically.

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Compare Alpha Battle System to the current battle system and try to find a different word to better describe wtf you are looking at.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Compare Alpha Battle System to the current battle system and try to find a different word to better describe wtf you are looking at.

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What am I looking at? A Hope diamond sized piece of crap (the games battle system) and no matter how much spit-shine you put on it its still a whopping turd. The difference is not "drastic" or whatever word you want to put in there. Is it different? Yeah, sure barely but what does that really have to do with the point or meaning of the OPs intent? It would have been a drastically different system if they listened to what we were screaming in alpha and beta (which I was a part of) but instead they elected to go with the slow-rolling train wreck we're trapped in.

Its utterly baffling to me how anyone can try and defend this in even a quasi kinda way. The people in charge of the game (ad-libing for brevity sake) say the game sucks and is boring. The polls pointed out the populace is clambering for drastic change cause the game sucks (in particular the battle system which is why Yoshi fixated on it) and they don't even charge us because the game sucks. The fact anyone can defend this game in borderline laughable.

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Originally Posted by Blair

See It yourself


This is FFXI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbBHl...eature=related
(Unless you never played FFXI, the above is a great example of PARTY play)

THis is FFXIV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8KSD...eature=related
(Until lv50, until patch 1.16a, grinding is smiliar to this )


Yeah, FFXI party waiting is definitely worthed it.

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So true, just 100%

How am i even defending it? lol I'm just saying there is a drastic "change/difference." Not a drastic "improvement"

Learn to read before you start defending your own opinions. I was aiming at how the OP can compare a battle system we dont even use anymore to a battle system we've known and loved for over 8 years. Its a no-brainer.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

What am I looking at? A Hope diamond sized piece of crap (the games battle system) and no matter how much spit-shine you put on it its still a whopping turd. The difference is not "drastic" or whatever word you want to put in there. Is it different? Yeah, sure barely but what does that really have to do with the point or meaning of the OPs intent? It would have been a drastically different system if they listened to what we were screaming in alpha and beta (which I was a part of) but instead they elected to go with the slow-rolling train wreck we're trapped in.

Its utterly baffling to me how anyone can try and defend this in even a quasi kinda way. The people in charge of the game (ad-libing for brevity sake) say the game sucks and is boring. The polls pointed out the populace is clambering for drastic change cause the game sucks (in particular the battle system which is why Yoshi fixated on it) and they don't even charge us because the game sucks. The fact anyone can defend this game in borderline laughable.

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I see alot of "this sucks" and "that sucks". What things in the battle system do you not like in particular? I think the pace of the battle is faster than what FFXI had. I consider it less boring too since you pretty much control "when" you're going to attack, etc. and are not just watching your character attack for you.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

How am i even defending it? lol I'm just saying there is a drastic "change/difference." Not a drastic "improvement"

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Semantics. Anyway, its not drastic but thats your opinion. Bizarre as it may be. The OPs ultimate point remains: The system sucks. Whatever footage he put in from then or me playing today it sucks.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Learn to read before you start defending your own opinions. I was aiming at how the OP can compare a battle system we dont even use anymore to a battle system we've known and loved for over 8 years. Its a no-brainer.

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I read just fine. Thank you for my literacy concerns.

The comment was aimed at anyone defending this game still. Again, the battle system itself is not all that different from Alpha to now. Suck is suck. And it is relevant (the comparison) because they had 8 years of data on what works and what doesn't and instead they gave birth to this freakshow that they can't even charge admission for because its that stinking ugly.

According to?

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Originally Posted by Zaene

I agree eww, the battles we have now are RADICALLY DIFFERENT from what was seen in that video, I agree Malakhim. Good point.

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lol no they are not! all they did was speed up the attacks that actually negatively affected the animations. like a MAR now strikes too quickly and the animations cannot keep up so they are inadvertantly cut off between attacks.......

I agree on how FFXIV's current battle system is different from XI's, but that doesn't make it any better than XI's. I'm not saying XI's is better than XIV's either. It depends on who is playing the game and what style they prefer to play it. If there was some sort of Auto Attack Toggle (which would be extremely difficult to implement), that would solve the issue.

My personal tastes deal with more tactics, instead of rushing in and pressing a lot of buttons. I've had a few ideas about a nice Auto Attack battle system that also includes Stamina bars, and actions would work like FFXIII. Weapon skills would be more powerful if you had more bars of stamina stored up. etc.

I think it may be a bit too late to suggest it now though, since they've already decided what they are going to do, it would be pointless to post it. =/