new melding system. more casual? no thanks!

Xenoblade's Gem system is still my favorite "Materia" system.

You basically purify crystals and temper them to make the Gem you want. And if you're lucky and get the percentage past 300%, you get a perfect Gem of the next tier. And you can just add and remove the Gems whenever you want. You don't have to get a catalyst or be a certain level to apply it.

Now I wanna play it, if I wasn't in the middle of One Piece Unlimited Cruise.

EDIT: But on the subject of Materia changes. Hell yeah. I've only sampled a bit of trying double melds (got some STR gloves, that's about it). And I've seen some horrible stuff. One player I know has failed 40+ attempts on double-melding a Sarnga. That's just nightmarish.

I see the reasoning behind this, based on something said in prior live broadcast, that devs are concerned that multiple melding of high stat materia is causing a balance issue and making characters too strong. This is something they were trying to avoid by making it harder to meld multiples of the same tier materia, but players were capable of doing it all the same.

To counter the issue they are going to adjust the materia to lower stats this way even though you can multimeld easier, you can't reach too high of stats via their vision. My biggest concern is the revamp of the stats/combat system since it was mentioned stats that jobs currently used might be changed slightly meaning certain people with incredible meld gear might find it isn't so grand after ARR comes out.

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Originally Posted by indira

i actually think they should make melding 100% and give gear a number of slots that way you can have aleast some variations of armor. that random shit has to go.

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I like this idea too. Crafted NQ gets X slots, HQ gets X+Y slots. Stat increases from materia would have to drop some tho, but still.... lets make it happen.

Right now Triple is the Casual / Hardcore Line. someone with full triples is someone you know spent a lot of time/money or got extremely lucky to get that gear. Granted you see a very few amounts of quads considering its a 6% chance and those triples usually put you at stat cap to begin with so no need for it. but in 2.0 the "Hardcore" will have all quads and maybe 5 melds to set themselves apart from the rest. Im assuming that for instance a double 4 meld will be a 20-25% chance instead of a 13-17% chance that it is now

Well along with the change didn't Yoshi state that they would be made EX upon materia addition. I believe it was stated doing the mailing items to players. So by that reasoning quad and penta melds would in theory be more rare since you wouldn't be able to throw gil at the auction house for one?

Because lets say you can request melding for 2-5. But the fact that you would have to request it still means players will be directly experiencing the failure rate even if their friends, passerbys willing to meld. So the system having more success at the lower realm (dual and triple) won't really "help" the player that are not aiming specifically for one since you won't be able to just buy one to save time.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

Also the stats bonuses that come from materia will be lowered and be made more casual.

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Why are lower stat boni more casual?

I'd not mind seeing them open up specific materia to more slots, with a risk/reward change in percentages, too. So, for example you could put strength on more than just gloves and weapons, but for each subsequent strength you put on a given piece the rate of success is significantly lower than if you put a different type of materia on it.

That would open the door for more creative combinations at higher success rates or more valuable pieces with just straight up stats on them.

But really we're barking at shadows until we actually see what the definitive changes are in the beta. At which point we can give feedback. This type of game balancing is not hard to change so let's just wait and see before we throw a tantrum at the casual-ness.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

How do you feel about the new melding system?
Apparently all tiers will have the same stats and it will be easier to make multi melds.
Also the stats bonuses that come from materia will be lowered and be made more casual.

I'm hating this. Buying exorbitant amounts of gil for melding is what could really put your character aside from others.

I don't think anyone ever complained about this. If its not broken, don't fix it, I'd say.

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Fixed it anyway. Just because you did not do this yourself does not mean others didn't pay out lots of money so they could feel like a precious snowflake.

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Originally Posted by indira

thats what im saying, melds should be easy like dyeing armor.

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Not like dyeing armor, but melding should be more like crafting HQ. To have various possibilities to increase the chance if you know what you do.

The melding system in 1.0 was completely stupid. I burned through 1100 materia trying to get my gamblers crown. That was retarded. I basically went from zero to 800 something melds in a span of 10 days trying to get that achievement(http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=297642). Not to mention going zero for 40 something on double melding heavens fist on felt bracers. Sad part was that on that, half the attempts were a tier 3/tier 4 melds not two tier 4's. That was back when heavens fist was very expensive. Gave up on melding for a while came back and tried to double meld mind materia on a celata. Gave up after my 27th attempt.

It was a stupid system where for the most part the best gear in the game came down to pure luck. It generally awarded a few people and frustrated most everyone else. I like the direction they are taking the materia system. Try being one of the unlucky ones when it comes to the materia system. Then come back here saying how great it was.