Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

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Originally Posted by Evil-Siren

Ya same here.
And since my boyfriend won't change his char into a male Miqo, I'd be sad if I can't marry him in ARR ;__;
I guess he would also be kinda furious if I would marry another male player x'D

I really hope we can marry the same sex like in Skyrim. There it was no problem at all and I found it really nice that they made no difference ^^

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how do I commission you to do some art for me :)? very nice sig.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

The problem is that some people truly believe what people do influences their real world attitude, here is an article about video games and violence http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-problems.html

Whilst I do agree with equality and same sex marriages it is taboo in some cultures which no one can disagree on, and if these people have half a chance they will slam SE for encouraging homosexuality. They are doing it with every other game they can.

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And those people would be ignorant, stupid and selfish. I hate marriage; I think the fact it's even recognized outside of a church helps to breed this bigotry, and religion and religious individuals should keep it to themselves.

I think if anyone is against same sex marriage in the real world, then they need to either work towards getting recognized marriage benefits out of our government or grow up and give everyone access; they won't do the former though, that would take away their own perks. Much as you said, my view extends to the game world (although it's even more ridiculous to have anything against same sex marriage in a video game as it has NOTHING to do with benefits); nothing incenses me more than watching people hate other people for reasons so wholly unconnected with them.

For the record, I'm 100% straight, and I 100% support gay marriage; hell, even polygamy assuming having 50 spouses doesn't reap more benefits than having a single spouse.

Just knowing that a relative can bar a patient's significant other from visitation in a hospital ICU just because they aren't recognized as "legally married" upsets me so much.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

3. Many people mistake NOT having same sex marriage as "being neutral" on the topic, but that's not true.
While some people critize their children are made to think something sinful is normal, this kind of influence works the other way around as well. I would'nt want my children to think same sex marriage is something shameful which can't be displayed in a game.

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This is one of the most serious arguments to me.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

I think they should implement it, for several reasons.

1. They already took a stance on same sex relationships with Miqo'tes going all "two woman can have fun together as well".
You could argue that a relationship is not the same as marriage, but the ones who despise same sex marriage do it because they consider homosexuality a "sin" so even having homosexuals in the game, even if they aren't married, will already make these people angry. And SE was obviously fine with that.

2. Most typical markets for SE's products are in the western world. While there still ARE people and countries against same sex marriage, they grow less by day and more and more people have a more progressive stance.

3. Many people mistake NOT having same sex marriage as "being neutral" on the topic, but that's not true.
While some people critize their children are made to think something sinful is normal, this kind of influence works the other way around as well. I would'nt want my children to think same sex marriage is something shameful which can't be displayed in a game.

4. The demographic on FFXIV is much older and more mature than in most other MMORPGs. I've only met ONE person who wasn't an adult yet in the course of 2 years. Adults are old enough to decide for themselves what to think and are not influenced by a game like children might be. They also tend to mind their own business more which means even if it WAS implemented and some wouldn't like it personally, it would rarely be something considered gamebreaking.

5. 1.-4. were the reasons why I think it would be right for SE as a company to implement it, 5. is just me saying that I personally want it ;)
Because I'm pro gay marriage in general and also because I might want to marry a RL guy ingame who - like many male players do - plays a female character because he doesn't want to stare at the ass of a male character all day.
Well and since I'm a girl my character is female too, soooo....^^

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Let's make out.

It's a freakin game. Why are we worried about what Square's political stance on an IRL topic is? Getting married in a game is retarded anyways and worrying so much about it to even question whether or not they'll allow same-sex marriage is even more retarded.

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Originally Posted by Kallivis

Considering the amount of homosexual references in the game already and the general acceptance of the population on the subject it's fairly silly to not allow it. I understand that those who are against it are a minority and it's mostly an issue with countries that ban same sex marriage or homosexuality in general, but as this is an era of progress, human rights, and fairness, it would seem archaic for a videogame company (especially Square Enix of all companies) to not allow it.

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Why can't you just role play your own ceremony? Why do you need the game to validate your lifestyle?

I really wish people would keep politics out of gaming.

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Originally Posted by Kuzak

Why can't you just role play your own ceremony? Why do you need the game to validate your lifestyle?

I really wish people would keep politics out of gaming.

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Missing the point entirely. It's the fact that it's purposely being left out.

Just letting you know, as a (I assume) heterosexual male, you will have absolutely no idea what something like this feels like.

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Originally Posted by Kuzak

I really wish people would keep politics out of gaming.

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What's the big deal with people asking for it? It's not a "Political" thing it's just people asking to be givin more options.

84% in favour in the poll so far. That's a hugely encouraging figure. Seems that most FFXIV players are nice people. Thankyou.

Before this gets locked I'd like to point out to the mods there actually is informed discussion happening here. Please let us talk about this freely and only step in if we get out of control.

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Just based this on the mods locking the previous topic on the subject.