Is it just me: Frontline

The only thing I would disagree with is the auto win because of a premade but someone spoke against that.

CC is a mess so is frontline. Won’t deny that. The lack of tutorials is something I spoke about earlier. Good points though.

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Originally Posted by MayuAmakura

As for frontlines, major issue is the fact that you can afk or even better, use 3rd party tools to not even do anything and get massive xp and boost your leveling. You get free things just by going in and doing nothing. On top of that we have a bad pvp showcase system THAT DOESN'T TELL anything to new players who decide to join pvp.

You get absolutely no tutorial on where to find your spells, what is a pvp tab, nothing. The tutorial that they have built-in via slides isn't something people will read, they don't care and most close it immediately. This is why you have people who don't know recuperate, potions or limit breaks exist after 2000 games. They are just clueless.

This leads to very bad quality games where in 10 minute match you'll have players that did 16k dps and mostly died around not knowing what to do. Some do it on purpose some genuinely are new and some just never bothered to learn because they are lazy and need fast xp.

It doesn't matter if you're good in pvp or not, fl are just RNG and on top of that you have premades that ruin the fun for everyone. Nobody likes to play against a team that has premades cause this is auto lose for everyone. The 3rd team will most likely do shenanigans where they will collide with you and let prem team win easily. This mostly always happens. Also rng of spawning points where sometimes square will spawn points to already winning team so they can win even harder.

Those guys are easily recognizable in every match. Either by names or the fact that they always move together and play tanks. The best classes right now where they do top dps. You can play something like machinist and do biggest dps and most kills but it won't matter if you are the only one in your team doing something and yes this happens frequently where you are the only one with over 1 million dps.

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No we're having the real conversation

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Originally Posted by MayuAmakura

It doesn't matter if you're good in pvp or not, fl are just RNG and on top of that you have premades that ruin the fun for everyone.

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Pick one thing: it's either RNG, or premades work because winning is actually to do with the overall skill of the team.

A premade isn’t a guaranteed win. There’s two other teams and those teams could band together and smother a premade with numbers. Your coordination would push you above typical fights (assuming your skill level is that high) but eventually numbers would win out.

A comparison would be duos in CC. Two coordinated people can’t guarantee a win. You can increase your odds for success if the other team doesn’t have coordination but that’s your only advantage because of numbers. 2 of 5 is similar to 8 of 24. You’ll definitely have an impact but how drastic completely depends on the 16 you aren’t grouped with.

I’ve seen full 5 man’s get wrecked by solos or a single duo with solos.

you can only make guides for how the mechanics in each instance work....

You can't actually make guides for doing the content in the PvP form, due to it is not a scripted game play like Savage and and Ultimate raids and the likes is....

Time and experience does the main thing, stick around with your friends... and don't run in between two groups fighting thinking you can win it all by tossing down salted earth ( you would be massacred from both sides in a crossfire )

Frontline explained easy for winning.

Do the targets in this order Players > objectives, if there is players at it... you only need 1 person to push a button to gain a point that is pretty much guarantied no matter what... and don't split up in two groups in the beginning, odds are the other team you meet is a full group and will make short history.

Final thing, stay alive... if one of the teams is far ahead in score, stop trying to fight for 2nd or 3rd place... mentality need to be at there is only 1st place at all time... meaning... change places and switch your team to hit on the team that is ahead.

What more is there to know? It is a game play that is dynamic meaning you got to read the situation and not a single Frontline match is the same, don't bet on it.

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Originally Posted by TofuLove

Pick one thing: it's either RNG, or premades work because winning is actually to do with the overall skill of the team.

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Pre-Made is a joke that does not exist, all you need to do and say is to get the alliance be like a mob... and that is it, people can on other teams can read that quickly and hmmm.... many of those 'flank kings' or whatever is so predictable, that you can tell your team what they do and really make them work for their money and actually beat them down quite easy.

Very easy to read, and they do the same thing every time to try and make it work.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Pre-Made is a joke that does not exist, all you need to do and say is to get the alliance be like a mob... and that is it, people can on other teams can read that quickly and hmmm.... many of those 'flank kings' or whatever is so predictable, that you can tell your team what they do and really make them work for their money and actually beat them down quite easy.

Very easy to read, and they do the same thing every time to try and make it work.

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preaching to the choir
getting people to press their buttons is a challenge though...

p.s.
there are good pre's that exist that don't do cringe calls, and just kill and chill at bh5 all game and usually top the leaderboard with 0 communication. they will have gained their alliance more points than the drag created by throwers and just win.
it ain't rocket science.