Official Statement: Regarding Mod Usage and Culture

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

This whole situation feels silly to me because all these people had to do was keep a low profile but decided to self-report themselves by taking over a public zone...and I have zero doubts they'll probably do it again even if a replacement for Mare manages to show up.

I've also already randomly had 18+ modded XIV content show up in the general XIV feed for twitter multiple times which is precisely the kind of thing the devs do not want happening and probably will keep happening regardless.

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Its because they are so starved for attention, they have to spam their naked character all over twitter. And much like with any society you follow the slowest and dumbest member with laws.

Now because Steve and Cindy crashed their car while breaking the speedlimit x5 and will most likely do it again no matter how many times someone lectures them. Nobody else can soon step into a car to even drive

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

They are running a business, and players aren't entitled to things they designated as cash shop items for free. I suppose it doesn't matter if it's on your own computer and no one else can see it, but in situations where you get to walk around in the items for free and others can see it like Mare, that's an issue.

The statement was sensible and well thought out. There are realities, as a business owner, that costs of doing business rise every year and you can't always charge your clients any more than you have 10 years ago. You seem entitled.

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This will kind of be off topic but :

This would be true if there wasnt already additional costs in any sort but we have to buy for 60€ to get content for 3 years which is still less content then a singleplayer game overall + the monthly costs so lets do simple math

36x11= 396€ + 60€ = 456€ (Because with the new changes it seems the expansion releases are easy 3 years between) to get less content then a singlepayer game and then the best costumes are placed behind another paywall?

dont get me wrong i love the game, i always loved final and the lore behind it, i got 4 alts, with all of them i do every ultimate and every raidtier, i cleared with all of them, bozja, eureka, HH, PotD and FT + Chaos, so like i said i love still final, and you can call me entitled but with due respect costumes shouldnt be behind a paywall, heck espescially when the costumes arent even accountbound

This community will cross the line again and ouroboros itself.
Then they will cry without realizing the damages done.
Xenos interview with Mare Dev is 100% clear there are freaks out there.
And Yoshi Ps statement to stop stealing (literally) mogstation items
But again this community will cross the line, they've done it before, they'll do it again and Yoshi will eventually slam an anti-cheat on us.
I can't wait for the day to come, and I hope I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by ShiyuuHQ

This community will cross the line again and ouroboros itself.
Then they will cry without realizing the damages done.
Xenos interview with Mare Dev is 100% clear there are freaks out there.
And Yoshi Ps statement to stop stealing (literally) mogstation items
But again this community will cross the line, they've done it before, they'll do it again and Yoshi will eventually slam an anti-cheat on us.
I can't wait for the day to come, and I hope I'm wrong.

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I dont think the game can handle anticheat.

More than reasonable post from Yoship all around.

And it's not just "don't talk about fight club." He's pretty explicitly saying that they're not ok with mods like Mare at all. Mods that are limited to your client only are fine.

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Originally Posted by ShiyuuHQ

This community will cross the line again and ouroboros itself.
Then they will cry without realizing the damages done.
Xenos interview with Mare Dev is 100% clear there are freaks out there.
And Yoshi Ps statement to stop stealing (literally) mogstation items
But again this community will cross the line, they've done it before, they'll do it again and Yoshi will eventually slam an anti-cheat on us.
I can't wait for the day to come, and I hope I'm wrong.

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These are all a result of incredibly relaxed moderation of players. This game largely may as well not have a ToS unless you go out of your way to offend someone. The way this game is moderated, this cycle will repeat itself over and over. Near enough every other community can be like this, where it is 'permitted'.

This game will never introduce anti-cheat. Yoshida's insistence on walking on eggshells with third party tools makes it pretty clear that the game (and the developers) rely on third-party tools just as much as what the community does.

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

Hahahahaha its exactly what i said, Money speaks like always, it clearly was because of the possibility to mod Ingamestore Shit and SHOW it to others which had to spend Money, it is exactly how i said it, i love it and with the increased server cost prices etc even if he said they dont wanna increase Sub Prices, wait for it, it still will happen sooner or later

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Oh I'm certain it might happen one day, but Yoshi P is doing what he and his team can to keep the prices down for now.

I read the full letter and with the well written explination and reasonings why they took their recent stance, I'm happy.

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Originally Posted by Scruit_Bigtime

in regards to the arguement of people using mods for mogstation items instead of buying them.

like piracy in general, if people would rather take the unofficial route to get your product/item, they either dont have the money for it, or dont think its worth the price and likely would not have purchased it anyway.

and i think this may have an opposite effect as people who may have used mod for mogstation items may well feel far less inclined to spend money on them now.

whereas up until now people would buy things like emotes and gear sets because mods were being made to work off those items, either by directly replacing them or improving/expanding upon them

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Okay, so...what is your point?

Like, why is it so hard for some people to understand (and accept) to NOT mod sync your (store or whatever) outfits to other mod users? And especially to not advertise it through "official" (more like, any) hashtags on social media...

He even stated that he does not care what people are doing to their character appearance on their side of the game. If you want to use any store item on your character, just do it. There is no need to justify it if you are doing it for yourself.

Yoshida-san's comment makes perfect sense for me. The onus is on folks who had to be loud about breaking rules -- he really didn't have issues as long as things were kept underground.

Though in regards to money. Its still in their ballpark to make that money with making a good game that treats their subscribing customers well.

You do NOT make money by doing sideprojects and telling people to "go play other games cause we got nothing here for you"

The goodwill needs to be earned back with meaningful hard hitting story, dialogue, gameplay and QoL innovation in 8.0 or we will keep running in circles or to an inevitable dead end